I just did the 3 yr avg between the 2.
Peavy 209.7 INN 32 GS 2 CG 14 W 9 L 224 K 3.13 ERA 1.11 WHIP
Webb 233.3 INN 33 GS 3 CG 16 W 10 L 181 K 3.20 ERA 1.19 WHIP
So yeah, not by much but Peavy is better.
That's pretty much what I figured. Factor in Peavy's Petco help and it's pretty much a toss up. Do you want a few more starts and two dozen or more innings per season or would you rather have a few dozen extra strikeouts per season?
The whip and the ERA are so close that the ballparks pretty much make each a wash...
santana + pedro + maine + el duque + mets offense = championship
-Mars
I hope they can work out the deal, the Mets need him.
I had the Mets winning it all in 2006. I was shocked they let the Cardinals beat them. The Mets are still in position to represent the NL, but they have several key players that are injury-prone or just plain old. Santana goes a long way to shore up their biggest need, but counting on Pedro as you #2 is rough. It's like the Diamondbacks counting on Johnson to be their #2 last season.
We'll have to see, but I think you're definately much better than last season. Problem is, I think Colorado and Arizona could be as well.
Although, if you take out one of Peavy's worst years, which was 05. It isn't very close after that. So that 05 year helped Webb to become closer.
Santana>Pevey>>Webb
The Defending Champion post season proven Boston Red Sox will have something to say about that!
Deal is pretty much done. Santana is a Met now.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_yl...v=ap&type=lgns
Mets and LHP Johan Santana agree to $150.75 million, 7-year contract
NEW YORK (AP) -- Johan Santana and the New York Mets agreed Friday to a $150.75 million, seven-year contract, a record for a pitcher and the last major step needed to finalize the team's blockbuster trade with Minnesota.
After the sides were granted an extra two hours to work on a deal, the Mets announced about 30 minutes before the new 7 p.m. EST deadline that negotiations had concluded. The pitcher was scheduled to take a physical Saturday.
Terms of the agreement were disclosed by a baseball official with knowledge of the talks who spoke on condition of anonymity because no announcement had been made.
Santana's contract topped the previous mark for pitchers, set when Barry Zito received a $126 million, seven-year deal from the San Francisco Giants last offseason. Santana was due $13.25 million in the final year of his contract with the Twins, and would have been eligible for free agency after the World Series.
The only players with larger packages are New York Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez ($275 million), Yankees shortstop Derek Jeter ($189 million) and Boston outfielder Manny Ramirez ($160 million).
Santana's average annual salary of $21.5 million is second only to A-Rod's $27.5 million. Among pitchers with multiyear contracts, it topped the $18.3 million of the Chicago Cubs' Carlos Zambrano.
Mets officials met with Santana's agent, Peter Greenberg, in Manhattan for the third straight day as the sides worked on a contract for the two-time AL Cy Young Award winner.
The Twins agreed Tuesday to swap Santana for four prospects: outfielder Carlos Gomez and right-handers Philip Humber, Kevin Mulvey and Deolis Guerra.
Santana and the Mets were then given until 5 p.m. EST Friday to negotiate a contract. For the deal to become official, the left-hander must formally waive the no-trade provision in his current contract.
With talks ongoing Friday, the Mets asked Minnesota for two extra hours to work on an agreement, a request that was granted by the Twins and approved by the commissioner's office.
Minnesota offered Santana an $80 million, four-year extension this offseason, but he turned it down.
AP Baseball Writer Ronald Blum and AP Sports Writer Dave Campbell in Minneapolis contributed to this report.
They will regret that contract in 3 years.
Mark it down.
Oh yeah he will be 32 all washed upGood luck with that it's the best pitcher in Baseball freaking Santana not an older Kevin Brown.
Maybe so, but Omar Minaya gagged last summer and didn't come through when the Mets clearly needed pitching help. Now they have one of the best in baseball. I'm happy as about this right now!
Peavy's been in the League six years to Webb's five. In that time Peavy has pitched in two pitcher's ballparks, Webb in one hitter's ballpark.
Over his career, Peavy has had an ERA of 4+ three times and 4.5+ once. Webb's highest ERA over his career has been a very good 3.59. Yes, Peavy is great. He'd probably be my choice if I had to choose twixt the pair, but Webb is equally as great and is far and away the more consistent pitcher having a career ERA lower while pitching an average of a dozen more innings per season.
It's no slight to Peavy, but a matchup of Webb vs. Santana will be equally as great as Peavy vs. Santana.
According to the stats, Peavy at his best is a half a run better than Webb, but at his worst is a full run worse.
I mean, being a 3.22 ERA 225 innings per season horse has to count for something? Especially when you've been nearly as good every single one of your five MLB seasons.
we get it JMJ you want to sex Webb.
give me Roy O. when he starts declining just shock him!
Alright, in that case (and with the Hitters Heaven that is Great American Ballpark) may I present Aaron Harang's 3 year averages.
225.3 Innings, 34 GS, 3 CG, 14 W, 10 L, 3.53 ERA, and 201 K
I'm confident enough in Wright and Reyes and Beltran to give enough run support for us to get it done. The Cardinals got lucky in 2006.
-Mars
Nah, Pedro will have a glorious return to Boston in the World Series, and he will shut down the Sox.
-Mars
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