But that's the whole thing.. Things like this happen all the time, but Stack was the one idiot who shot his mouth off about it happening.
Essentially it's like tampering in other sports. He should have just kept his mouth shut.
Again, Stack saying that he plans to resign with the Mavs is no violation of rules. If the Mavs and Nets had an agreement for this all to happen, then that was against the rules. But there is no proof, so there have been no rules violated as far as people looking at this situation should be concerned.
I understand your point here, but the league currently has no rules against this happening, and they should not be allowed to change the rule mid-season.
This is ridiculous. Stack is included to make the salaries work, and NJ is going to buy him out because they don't want his salary. Where he goes after that is not something that interests Jersey, he's getting bought out regardless. All Stack is done is say that when that happens, his preference is to return to Dallas, and he probably doesn't need to read tea leaves to figure out the Mavs would like to have him back. Anything can happen in 30 days - a Western compe or can make a $$ offer the Mavs can't match, the Mavs might not be done making deals to improve their roster and won't have the salary slot or roster spot to sign Stack.
It was fine to stick to the rules when Amare and Boris broke them, and Stern swore up and down his hands were tied, and it would set a horrible precedent if he tore up a rule on the fly because it was inconvienent. Now he's going to do just that. Apparently his hands aren't tied after all. The worst you can say about this is that Stack's preference to go back to Dallas violates the spirit of the 30-day rule but not the letter. If they find this distasteful so much, they can change the rule in the offseason.
And for the record, I don't like the trade, and only grudgingly want it to go through for team chemistry reasons. This is bull .
He's not creating controversy, he's just going by the letter of the law like he did w/ the Suns suspension
That's what's bull , then. They wouldn't dare investigate the under the table deals, but throw this in the Mavs face because Stack spoke up? all that. The league can't pick and choose what they want to investigate solely on the amount of public evidence available. If it's wrong - do something about everyone that does it, regardless of someone running their mouth.
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What you didn't understood is that the plan with Stackhouse was likely Nets buying out for a little amount and Mavs spending the whole MLE on him.
Things like that never happen and there is no way it could have happened without an pre-arrangement.
Even if Stack had shut up, the league would have been ticked by this move.
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The 30-day rule to me, is similar to teams sending in someone to purposely commit a flagrant foul. If they do that, the consequence is a suspension. If the team and player are willing to deal with that, then so be it, he will be suspended/fined, and back with the team afterward. Same as this. If the team and player are willing to deal with a 30 day period, then so be it, and they will be back with the team after the 30 days. I don't even see that it violate this "spirit" of the rule.
He's doing the exact ing opposite, he's tearing up a rule on the fly. Nothing prevents Stackhouse from going back to Dallas after 30 days except the whim of Emperor Stern. Stack is included to make the salaries work, and the Nets would presumably buy him out. It's only presumed at this point that Jersey is going to buy him out, nothing in the trade papers submitted to the league says anything about what Jersey is going to do with Stack.He's not creating controversy, he's just going by the letter of the law like he did w/ the Suns suspension
There is no letter of the law being violated if Stackhouse is bought out, then decides to resign with the Mavs after the 30 day period.He's not creating controversy, he's just going by the letter of the law like he did w/ the Suns suspension
The 30 day period is put in to keep teams from making trades like this, but if the team is willing to deal with that 30 days, then so be it. If the league did not want players to go back to their original teams period, then they should have just outlawed it in the first place. Obviously it's not that big of a deal if they only put a 30 day period in place, as opposed to the rest of the season.
I can understand your gripe. I wouldn't have liked it had the League stepped in and made a decision upon a judgement call of an interpretation of a rule.
Still, I agree with their stance, and it's not just because it's the Mavericks or whatnot. If you read from days back, I was actually surprised at the 30 day period. I thought the NBA had stepped up to the plate better than that. I thought it was two or three months.
It's a touchy issue. I just think in general it's best to keep from the appearance of potentially tainted deals.
As for the Lakers, it was a steal, but they Lakers gave up the proper salary in expiring contracts, something that's always coveted in trades, and essentially, three 1st-rounders. That's pretty good. Not great, but it's not like it was a 1-for-1 trade of Brown for Gasol.
Seriously, what the is their logic if they don't want players to go back to their teams period after being bought out, to only put a 30 day waiting period in place??? If they really cared that much about it happening, there would not be a 30 day period. The rule would not allow them to go back period. But that is not how they made the rule, so they obviously don't care that much.
Read my other posts on the 30 day period.
You should be glad Stackhouse has a big mouth and George is a , because your team is far better off for having not made this deal.
It's the same logic that apparently has Devean George losing lots of money from sacrificing his Bird rights. Those Bird rights are worthless without Cuban's cooperation. Maybe Devean isn't the sharpest tack in the box, but you'd think his agent would've figured that out by now.
"Devean likes it here, he got 43 minutes of playing time last night."
Yeah, because Josh, Stack and Devin were hurt. ing re ed delusional piece of .
Actually I think Stack shooting his mouth off is getting this kind of attention because of the shady nature of the Gasol deal. I think the league in general took a credibility hit on that one, but at the very least you didn't have Jerry Buss say something, "Good things we still have friends in Memphis."
Make no mistake, Stackhouse is a moron, but I do think Stern is trying to thump his chest and play the strong man on this one to make things look legit.
I have no idea why the NBA balked at limiting the waivee's choices to any team other than the one who traded him. It seems like they dropped the ball.
I think they thought that by having a rule discouraging such, that maybe teams wouldn't attempt to intentionally cir vent the spirit of the rule. Seemingly the Mavs did just that, which is why they came down so hard.
Agreed. As awesome as it may seem to have Jason Kidd alongside Howard and Dirk, this trade depletes the Mavs' depth, and makes your team worse. Kidd is overrated as a leader, he doesn't have a reliable jump shot, and Dallas gives up far more than it receives in this trade.
No, they aren't anymore for sure. This debacle will more than likely ruin chemistry further, and i don't think people realize the effect Kidd would really have on this team. You obviously wouldn't know because you don't watch the Mavericks nearly as much as I do. But I as well as plenty of other Mavs fans see what the true problems are with the Mavericks (which is on the offensive end, not defensive), and how Kidd will fix a large portion of these.
Stack should have said he planned on joining the Lakers. The league wouldn't have blinked.
The Mavericks should seriously take their case to an arbitrator if that happens. "Spirit" of the rule? What the is that?
You're a ing idiot. Your team for years has lived on a 5-7 man rotation, and anyone with a in brain knows that you only need about 7-8 people for the playoffs to play regularly.
Hassell and KVH is being explored according to the article. And you know that Nets are more desperate. But mavs arent looking to good in terms of what messages they are sending to their team. Either way, its a pretty ed up situation thanks to the boneheads the Mavs have.
I don't like this trade for us, but where does this leave the Mavericks? You either make a big trade or you don't. You don't let it fall apart so publicly and tell the guys included in the trade that they're not part of your plans and tell the other portion of your roster that you don't believe in them after insisting all season that you did. I think this trade does bad things for overall team chemistry. You can't undo the Pandora's Box that has opened up.
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