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And rightly so. You shouldn't be allowed to trade a player, then simply resign him that same year after the acquiring team waives him.
The League simply needs to change it so said player can't return for that full season.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3247183
The chances of Jason Kidd wearing a Dallas Mavericks uniform this season are shrinking by the day.
First, Devean George refused to consent to the trade to New Jersey. Now, a league source says the NBA has informed Dallas that if Jerry Stackhouse is traded and subsequently waived by the New Jersey Nets, he can not be re-signed by the Mavericks.
"The league has taken Stackhouse out of the deal," the source said. "They said, 'He can be in the trade, but he can't go back to Dallas after that."'
The willingness of Mavericks owner Mark Cuban to include Stackhouse in the trade was based on his knowledge that New Jersey would immediately buy him out of his contract, which would allow Stackhouse to re-sign with Dallas after 30 days.
It was Stackhouse's brazen response to the potential trade on Wednesday that first put the league on notice.
"I get 30 days to rest, then I'll be right back,'' Stackhouse told The Associated Press on Wednesday in response to the proposed trade. "I ain't going nowhere."
Neither apparently is George. Mark Bartelstein, George's agent, said this afternoon that his client is no longer thinking of rescinding his decision. George's refusal is based on the fact that a trade would cost him his "early Bird rights" and therefore the bulk of his leverage as a free agent this summer.
"Anything is possible, but as of now, it's not something Devean's considering," Bartelstein said.
The Mavericks, whose locker room could be in shambles if the Kidd deal doesn't go through, are desperately seeking other alternatives. They are looking at replacing Stackhouse and George in the trade with Trenton Hassell and Keith Van Horn.
But a person with knowledge of the talks said the Nets are leery of taking Hassell because he has two seasons, worth a total of $8.6 million, remaining on his contract after this season.
The source added that while other teams, most notably Cleveland and Denver, are pursuing Kidd, there is no other "realistic" destination out there, and that Kidd would most likely remain with the Nets if nothing can be worked out with Dallas.
The 30-day rule was added to the league's collective bargaining agreement as a response to a trade between Boston and Atlanta in 2005. In that deal, Boston sent Gary Payton to Atlanta to reacquire Antoine Walker with the understanding that the Hawks would immediately waive Payton, who then re-signed with Boston three days later.
The league frowned on this move, and ins uted the 30-day rule. By flouting the rule so publicly, Stackhouse may have given the league no choice but to eliminate him from the deal or prevent the Mavericks from re-signing him.
"If Stackhouse had kept quiet, the league would not have been able to prove anything," a Western Conference executive said.
The executive added that team owners have been calling commissioner David Stern to complain about the Stackhouse part of the deal, and that several GMs would have been incensed if he had allowed the trade -- and subsequent return of Stackhouse to Dallas -- to go through.
"Every GM from a potential playoff team in the Western Conference is complaining about this,'' the executive said. "If the league allows this trade to go through, it'll have a major credibility issue on its hands. Our collective bargaining agreement's not worth anything if this goes through.''
Chris Broussard covers the NBA for ESPN The Magazine.
And rightly so. You shouldn't be allowed to trade a player, then simply resign him that same year after the acquiring team waives him.
The League simply needs to change it so said player can't return for that full season.
Man, this debacle gets better every day. It's even better than last night's Lost episode.
This is good news. Hopefully Cuban gets to his senses now and doesn't do the deal. This next week is going to be nerve wracking.
Nothing is better than Lost. Sayid working for Ben?!
Just like I told everyone, Stackhouse will be in Dallas in 30 days. Thanks.
Touché
If cueball wants to do it he will just send KVH. Net impact on Mavs, same, Stack will still be in Dallas (and not have to wait 30 days), net on Nets, same.
EDIT - no, not true, Nets would not have George.
Ugh...the Ben/Sayid line is ing stupid. They're already running out of ideas?
Guaranteed.. don't forget.
No, thats bull . It's completely up to the player wherever he wants to go. He can back out whether he gives them his word or not. All you gotta do is look at Carlos Boozer, and what he pulled on the Cavaliers. If there is valid proof that it is part of the deal, then I can understand that. But there is no proof. Stack simply said, when the deal is done, and when he is bought out, he is going to return to the Mavs. There are so many different ways that people can understand that, that it is not valid proof that it was the agreement between the teams. All it proves, is that Stackhouse is not going to consider offers from other teams, as he wishes to sign back with the Mavericks.
Fuehrer Stern was hard at work on this one. Anything to with Cuban.
Maybe now they'll look into the collusion between Lakers FO East and Lakers FO West?
No, never mind, Sternie WANTS LA to have it all, doesn't he.
Stern is such a POS. He allows the Lakers to get away with one of the biggest rapings in NBA history, but changes the rules mid-season just to with the Mavericks.
The Nets would have to keep KVH on the roster as well, I believe. Otherwise the NBA would nix it.
I'm thinking it's pretty much dead now, unless Breath changes his mind soon and the Nets somehow want to take on Trenton Hassell instead.
If it's dead - it and move on. Aim for Maggette or Miller and get it done.
WTF? Do you want a signed and dated note from Stack and his agent? Stackhouse is a ing moron. How can you come out and say that ?
No way. You can't have collusion, and that's what these handshake under the table, nudge-nudge-wink-wink agreements were.
You can't allow a team to throw in a player to allow salaries to meet, then net said player in return once the secret agreement plays itself out.
If you want, make it like baseball so teams don't have to match the salaries so exactly. You a team wants to acquire a $20 million PG for roughly $6 million in exchanged players, then let them, but you just can't allow the compe ive balance to be messed with the way this deal seemingly did.
If he wants to return the nest season, then so be it, but not that same year.
Right, you can say you can't have these agreements all you want but they're still going to happen.
What if Stackhouse didn't say anything and magically returned to the Mavs after 30 days? What's that? Just a coincidence?
Cry us a river...
The rule was create after the 2005 season when Boston send Payton to ATL for Walker. ATL then released him and he went back to Boston.
Wasn't Boozer a FA??
Yes, there is proof because Stack shot his mouth off. If Cuban hadn't gotten y about the trade he wouldn't have told Stack the Nets would buy him out. Cuban and Stack both ed up.
You're really grasping at air on this.. Face it, Stack and Cuban ed up big time.
Well in fairness, Cuban hasn't exactly tried to be friends w/ Stern during his time as owner.
It wasn't smart of him to say that, but there is no valid proof shown that they broke the rules, or had that as a part of their agreement.
No rules against it.
If they add that rule next year, I'm fine with it. But there is no rule against it this year, and they should not be allowed to change the rules mid-season like that.
The Lakers did it under the rules. It's idiotic for ppl to rip them for it. It was perfectly legal under the rules.
The Kidd trade was perfectly legal under the rules as well until Stack shot his mouth off.
No, obviously it wouldn't have been. That's why the rule needs to be changed to address such. Stack keeping his mouth shut doesn't disprove there was collusion going on. It just means it wasn't broadcast/reported upon.
I don't see how this is difficult to understand?
You can't have a team cir venting the trade rules in such a blatant manner. Like I said, it completely messes with the spirit of the trade rules, plus the compe ive balance the rules try to enforce.
Good for them.
Yes, but he made a verbal agreement, which apparently means something in this league, if they say that verbal agreements on certain things are against the rules.
Stack saying that he plans to resign with the Mavs after being bought out does not prove that the Mavs and Nets had an agreement for this to happen.
I agree that they did not handle this well, but there was no proof that any rules were violated.
Doesn't mean that Stern should go so far as to create controversy about the integrity of the league, as well as himself, by ing the Mavs over on a consistent basis, while doing anything to help keep the Lakers at the top of the league.
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