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    Dying a long death because of all the radiation sickness.

    Yea, I'm sure that's what "god" wants.

    I bet he'd get a kick out of seeing kids born with five eyes and penises growing out of their chests.

    He's a good god that way.
    God also gave us the freedom of
    choice. Which makes us much different
    from animals. You and I can choose to
    do good or bad.

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    Dying a long death because of all the radiation sickness.

    Yea, I'm sure that's what "god" wants.

    I bet he'd get a kick out of seeing kids born with five eyes and penises growing out of their chests.

    He's a good god that way.
    Whoever said god was good? If he/she/it exists, god killed nearly all of man in the deluge (leaving everyone else to drown while they struggle to survive). Dude convinced his servent to do something he had forbidden, and then punished him for doing it. God kicked man out of paradise because man became too smart.

    God is not a kind en y, if god exists.

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    God also gave us the freedom of
    choice. Which makes us much different
    from animals. You and I can choose to
    do good or bad.
    So, the all loving god gave us the freedom to kill each other off?

    That's a pretty ty god.

    Maybe god comes from a family of gods that are geniuses and he's the little re ed kid they don't talk about.

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    Whoever said god was good? If he/she/it exists, god killed nearly all of man in the deluge (leaving everyone else to drown while they struggle to survive). Dude convinced his servent to do something he had forbidden, and then punished him for doing it. God kicked man out of paradise because man became too smart.

    God is not a kind en y, if god exists.
    But, he's supposed to be all loving.

    That Jesus guy said so.

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    Look, nobody wants nuclear war. Except perhaps some of the jihadists. War is expensive, destructive, and lots of people die. It's a terrible thing. Unfortunately, sometimes war is necessary, but don't paint the Right as wanting or desiring war. We don't.

    Now ... I'm seeing a expression -- rather crude, but discernible -- of the atheist rejection of God based on there being evil in the world. I would say that the problem of evil is probably the most formidable argument against God, compared to other arguments against God. This, of course, is not to say that theism does not have good or convincing things to say about evil. But certainly the question is more important and complicated than simply trashing God.

    If anyone wants a sensitive and thoughtful treatment of the matter, I'm more than happy to help shed some light on it.

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    Because Muslims will get the blown out of them, and millions will die.
    Because Jews will get the blown out of them, and millions will die.
    Because Christians will get the blown out of them, and millions will die.
    Because Hindus will get the blown out of them, and millions will die.
    Because . . . . .

    If there is one true god, one side should be protected.

    But, all will die.
    Therefore, there is no god.

    Good enough?
    Got it.

    Unfortunately, that rationale may work for you, but as a Christian who has read the bible, I understand that God is not going to protect me, or anyone else, from such things. It won't prove any such thing to me.

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    As a Christian who has read the bible, I understand that God is not going to protect me, or anyone else, from such things. It won't prove any such thing to me.
    Pretty close. The only condition I would put on your statement is that we still affirm that God is (a) able and (b) willing to protect not only his followers, but whosoever he chooses. In other words, I concur that God is not obligated or has he promised to protect anyone from catastrophic war, at least not in the New Testament. (Matthew 24) But let's not sell short his ability to do just that.

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    But let's not sell short his ability to do just that.

    Then, let's test it with nuclear war.

    We'll see just what side god is on.

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    How do you reconcillate the idea that god created life only to allow evil to potentially destroy it?

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    Whoever said god was good? If he/she/it exists, god killed nearly all of man in the deluge (leaving everyone else to drown while they struggle to survive). Dude convinced his servent to do something he had forbidden, and then punished him for doing it. God kicked man out of paradise because man became too smart.

    God is not a kind en y, if god exists.
    You seem to be one heck of a Bible Scholar . . .

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    So, the all loving god gave us the freedom to kill each other off?
    Beats the of being robots with no real decision regarding our actions.

    That's a pretty ty god.
    For those who do not know him . . .

    Maybe god comes from a family of gods that are geniuses and he's the little re ed kid they don't talk about.
    You could start you own religion . . .

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    God kicked man out of paradise because man became too smart.
    Man became so smart that mankind is within a button push away of killing itself.

    And, if man became smarter than god . . . god is one stupid mother er.

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    How do you reconcillate the idea that god created life only to allow evil to potentially destroy it?
    It was already explained to you but you missed it.

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    Beats the of being robots with no real decision regarding our actions.

    So, animals are robots?


    For those who do not know him . . .
    Show me proof of how you know him and his agenda, and I'll cut you some slack.


    You could start you own religion . . .
    That's plausible.

    I mean, that's what the Catholic Church did, and all the others that followed suit.

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    It was already explained to you but you missed it.
    Oh no, it wasn't answered at all.

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    And, if man became smarter than god . . . god is one stupid mother er.
    If the Christian God exists, this statement is pretty far from the truth.

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    So, animals are robots?

    Where did you come up with that idea?


    Show me proof of how you know him and his agenda, and I'll cut you some slack.

    You probably had this discussion with other believers so I'm assuming by know you know this is impossible. Are you familiar with the word Faith?


    I mean, that's what the Catholic Church did, and all the others that followed suit.
    And 2000 years later, 1 billion still believe in what RCC says, with another 4 billion believing in some sort of Supreme Being.

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    If the Christian God exists, this statement is pretty far from the truth.
    I'm not the one that said that god got pissed because man became too smart.

    Take that up with the one who said it.

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    Oh no, it wasn't answered at all.
    Ok. I will try again.

    Freedom of Chioce.

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    Where did you come up with that idea?
    Because we're the only ones that god gave free will to, as Christians say. That's why we humans are allowed to make a "real decision regarding our actions."

    Isn't that what you said?

    You probably had this discussion with other believers so I'm assuming by know you know this is impossible. Are you familiar with the word Faith?
    I have faith it's going to be sunny tomorrow. That doesn't mean it's going to happen.


    And 2000 years later, 1 billion still believe in what RCC says, with another 4 billion believing in some sort of Supreme Being.

    There's billions more that don't believe in any of that.

    So, what's your point?

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    Ok. I will try again.

    Freedom of Chioce.
    That's your answer?
    Seriously?

    This was my question:

    "How do you reconcillate the idea that god created life only to allow evil to potentially destroy it? "

    Your answer doesn't address it at all.

    God created life, but he also allowed evil to flourish.

    Freedom of choice has nothing to do with that, at all.

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    You seem to be one heck of a Bible Scholar . . .
    I'll not say I've read the entire thing, but I've been over the majority of it multiple times. Reading it and paying attention to it is why I no longer call myself a Christian.

    I'm a hobbyist. I know enough to aggravate people, and that's all I need to know

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    That's your answer?
    Seriously?

    This was my question:

    "How do you reconcillate the idea that god created life only to allow evil to potentially destroy it? "

    Your answer doesn't address it at all.

    God created life, but he also allowed evil to flourish.

    Freedom of choice has nothing to do with that, at all.
    As I said before, you simply don't get it.

    There is evil in this world because man has the ability to chose between good and bad.

    It was explained to you, and you missed the point.

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    As I said before, you simply don't get it.

    There is evil in this world because man has the ability to chose between good and bad.

    It was explained to you, and you missed the point.
    So, man created evil because he has the ability to choose between good and bad?


    God gave man the ability to choose from good and bad. So, how is evil not god's fault?


    Your answer still doesn't add up.

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    "How do you reconcillate the idea that god created life only to allow evil to potentially destroy it? "
    Entertainment value. If god is omnipotent/omniprecient, than we are either a tool to entertain, or a tool to feed the ego.

    If god is not omnipotent/omniprecient, then there's no guarantee god could have stopped it.

    That's what I realized at about 9 years old, back when I was still Christian.

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