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Watch it again. Fish didn't start holding him till the end after Monta already made up his mind he was going through Fish. Ellis tried to go through him since the top of the key.
He made no effort at all to go around Fisher. Clear as day. He put the refs in a bad situation.
Watch it again. Fish didn't start holding him till the end after Monta already made up his mind he was going through Fish. Ellis tried to go through him since the top of the key.
Come on Laker fan. Fisher had both hands on Ellis the whole time. I know you're not this much of a homer.
Both hands?? You can't even see his right hand. I've already stated it was a bad call. It should have been a no call. But it's Monta's fault for putting the refs in that position. He made no effort at all to go around Fisher since the top of the key. Did he really think he would get the benefit of the doubt at the end of the game against a crafty veteran?? I guess he did and that's why the Warriors ended up with the L.
It's already been stated.
It's not so easy to go around a player in less than 2 seconds when that player is holding and grabbing you.
Rewatch the vid
I've watched it several times. It's incredulous that you think Ellis could have gotten around Fisher with Fisher's left arm draped all around his back even before Fisher pulled him down. You should rewatch the video.
I agree that Fish pulled Ellis. Idiot Laker fans in denial.
But like I said, crafty move by crafty veteran. I've seen Rip Hamilton do the same thing plenty of times.
Agreed nkdlunch. Smart, crafty, savvy move. All of that. But, it was definitely a foul on Fisher. And, Ellis was not in a position to go around Fisher because Fisher was grabbing him
Better question is why the were the Warriors in some sort of stack formation on the out of bounds play? Nellie couldn't come up with anything better than a high school stack????
HAH, what a pussy move by fisher
Fisher didn't pull him down till the end. Since the get go Ellis tried to go through him. I've already said it was a bad call and a schooling by Fisher.
Fisher's arm was around Ellis' back well before the pull down.
Whatever. I don't have a bias either way. You obviously do.
Believe what you want. Just know that what you believe is wrong.
Laker fans realize Fish pulled Ellis down. Laker fans do not buy that Ellis could have not gone around fish because Fisher was pulling him the whole time. It's obvious Fisher pulled him at the end of the play and not from the top of the key like Piston fan over here is claiming.
No bias?? Between the Lakers and Warriors a Piston fan says no bias.
Rewatch the vid
What's funny?No bias?? Between the Lakers and Warriors a Piston fan says no bias.
If there's a team I like more between the Lakers and the Warriors, it's the Lakers. I am a fan of Kobe Bryant. If anything, I would side with the Lakers when it comes to something like this.
But, ok.
Offensive foul by Monta Ellis. Clearly.
What the vid on mute so you can see the actual play and hot have it be painted by the crying commentators. What pussies. Yes, it's a foul and it could have gone either way on Fish and Monta. Unfortunately it went against the Warriors.
Boy, that's a surprisingly bad call by Delaney. From his position, there's no way that he can determine who initiated the fall, which would be crucial to making a correct call in that situation. I'm sympathetic to the notion that a no call would have been appropriate (though I think that any foul on the play was on Fisher); I'm quite surprised to see Bob Delaney make such a poor call at such a key moment in such a big game. Unfortunately, it's not the first time he's made a critical call from a poor vantage point in a game at Oakland this season -- he got the Spurs on a really, really bad block/charge call in the Spurs' second game against the W's. He virutally had his back to that play, looked up and seemed to just guess about what the call should have been in that instance. In this instance, it seems like a guess as well -- and a very bad one.
If you look at the whole vid there are a bunch of questionable calls.
I'm sure of that, too. Despite the Dongahy incident last summer, NBA officiating is at a frustratingly poor level at the moment. There are some good ones out there (even some really good officials), but for the most part, there's way too much guessing going on for my tastes.
Delaney had no business making that call.
I hate it all, the NBA should review it, and on ANY obvious flop reward a Flagarent 1 foul....
It has to go....all this flopping is unmanly...and Fisher is the WORST offender...in the league.
DD
Funny thing is Phil runs stacks a lot too.
Fisher pulled him down. Obvious foul on Fisher.
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