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    No matter how much I love Timmy (and he is my favorite sportsman of all time), I still cannot compare him to Michael Jordan. Tim is great, so great that league and people will realise how big he actually was when he retire... For me, Tim Duncan is big as Russell, as Bird and as Magic were... Jordan? No, not as big as Jordan was.

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    First Parker>Kobe thread and now TD>MJ thread

    Tim is great but how bout no! I've seen him mentally defeated (against the Shaq Lakers, spazzing out during the Detroit series) something Jordan would have never done. Tim is up there as one of the most consistent players ever but he has no le defense. It's one and out, one and out. Even Hakeem had two. Jordan dominated "sports" like never seen before. When it's all said and done we'll see but as of right now dude just stop.

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    Can we wait and have this discussion after the playoffs are finished?
    Can we wait and have this discussion after his career is finished??? He is just too young (no matter what people say!!! still in his prime) to make that kind of comparisons at this point.

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    I don't think Tim Duncan should be compared to Michael Jordan.

    Michael Jordan in all his championship runs had only 1 allstar with him (Scottie Pippen)

    Tim Duncan has/had Manu Ginobli (2005), Tony Parker (2006,2007), David Robinson,



    *Who knows, if Duncan would have won those rings without those players

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    When Duncan won in 2003, he basically did it by himself. Parker was inconsistent as and Duncan was like the only star on the team at that time.

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    I don't think Tim Duncan should be compared to Michael Jordan.

    Michael Jordan in all his championship runs had only 1 allstar with him (Scottie Pippen)

    Tim Duncan has/had Manu Ginobli (2005), Tony Parker (2006,2007), David Robinson,



    *Who knows, if Duncan would have won those rings without those players
    You're forgetting Dennis Rodman

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    When Duncan won in 2003, he basically did it by himself. Parker was inconsistent as and Duncan was like the only star on the team at that time.
    So did Jordan in 91 who was the only allstar on that Bulls team (pippen had bad season that year)

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    You're forgetting Dennis Rodman
    Nope, Im not forgetting anyone, Dennis Rodman was only an allstar in 1990, and 1992. Never was an allstar for the Chicago Bulls.

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    Nope, Im not forgetting anyone, Dennis Rodman was only an allstar in 1990, and 1992. Never was an allstar for the Chicago Bulls.
    Rodman won 3 rebounding les with Jordan, averaging 14.9 rebounds per game each year. He was also a consistent 1st team all-defensive player, and was 1st team in 1996. Rodman was the best offensive rebounder of all time, and is ranked the 30th best player of all time in this book:

    Who's Better, Who's Best in Basketball?: Mr Stats Sets the Record Straight on the Top 50 NBA Players of All Time
    http://www.amazon.com/Whos-Better-Be.../dp/0071417885

    btw

    this is a great book.

    It has Pippen rated # 29 and Jordan rated # 3 (behind Wilt)

    It also has Duncan rated # 9 (the book came out after the 2003 season)

    Besides putting Shaq first (a stupid pick intended to sell books at the time), the rest of the book is great.

    Here's the complete top 50 list:

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0071...pt#reader-link

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    Nope, Im not forgetting anyone, Dennis Rodman was only an allstar in 1990, and 1992. Never was an allstar for the Chicago Bulls.
    Yeah, but he's still an All-star type of player.

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    To tell you the truth, I think rebounds are the most overrated stats. Just because you can rebound that doesnt mean anything. If you rebound, theres a chance the rebound will convert into points, and theres also a chance the rebound will fail resulting in a turnover. Points and assists are the real important stats, once you score or give out assists, it cant fail, itll always stay on the scoreboard.

    Same goes with stealing, rebounding, and blocking, all overrated stats.

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    Yeah, but he's still an All-star type of player.
    and so is Bruce Bowen, Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili, and David Robinson

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    If Jordan is so good, why was Sam Bowie drafted ahead of him?

    Bowie > Jordan

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    If Jordan is so good, why was Sam Bowie drafted ahead of him?

    Bowie > Jordan

    That was probably the most stupidest, most ignorant, most ridiculous, counter argument I have ever heard. What are you trying to say? Just because a player was drafted before another player doesn't mean anything.

    I guess we can play your IGNORANT game..... Robert Horry has more rings than Tim Duncan does that make Robert Horry better than Tim Duncan? Lorenzen Wright was drafted before Kobe Bryant, does that make Wright better than Bryant??

    You fail.

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    That was probably the most stupidest, most ignorant, most ridiculous, counter argument I have ever heard. What are you trying to say? Just because a player was drafted before another player doesn't mean anything.

    I guess we can play your IGNORANT game..... Robert Horry has more rings than Tim Duncan does that make Robert Horry better than Tim Duncan? Lorenzen Wright was drafted before Kobe Bryant, does that make Wright better than Bryant??

    You fail.
    You fail for taking that post seriously man.

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    That was probably the most stupidest, most ignorant, most ridiculous, counter argument I have ever heard. What are you trying to say? Just because a player was drafted before another player doesn't mean anything.

    I guess we can play your IGNORANT game..... Robert Horry has more rings than Tim Duncan does that make Robert Horry better than Tim Duncan? Lorenzen Wright was drafted before Kobe Bryant, does that make Wright better than Bryant??

    You fail.
    you're just jealous because you didn't think of the argument first, and are a suspected Duncan/Spurs hater.

    if you're not aware, Duncan is a big man, while jordan is just a guard. Big men win championships, not guards.

    Duncan is a defensive specialist while jordan was showboating shooter who dumped his wife.

    Defense wins championships.

    The Big Fundamental is a role model for us all.

    Hakeem Olajuwon was drafted before jordan as well.

    Hakeem > Bowin > jordan








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    I'd rather have MJ. Without a doubt.

    But TD is right up there as an overall player.

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    ROFL your post cracks me up..... How old are you, because its pointless arguing with 5 year olds. Lol lets analyze this ignorant post.

    you're just jealous because you didn't think of the argument first, and are a suspected Duncan/Spurs hater.
    Thats why in most of the posts Ive posted, Ive always supported the Spurs, you're just too arrogant to realize that

    if you're not aware, Duncan is a big man, while jordan is just a guard. Big men win championships, not guards.
    Who was the great big man on the Bull's 6 championship run? none. Jordan (guard) dominated all big men during his time, hence Hakeem, Patrick, Robinson, Mourning, Shaq, couldnt win a championship when the "Guard" Michael Jordan was in town.


    Duncan is a defensive specialist while jordan was showboating shooter who dumped his wife.
    Michael Jordan
    Defensive Player of the year:- (1) 1988
    All Defensive Team First Team (9) 1988-1998

    Tim Duncan
    Defensive Player of the year:- (0)
    All Defensive Team First Team (7) 1999-2003 , 2005 , 2007

    Hakeem Olajuwon was drafted before jordan as well.

    Hakeem > Bowin > jordan
    ROFL even funnier than your previous post

    What does that prove??

    Derrick Coleman (1st pick) > Pelvis Ellison (2nd pick) > Darius Miles (3rd pick) > Raymond Felton (5th pick) > Manu Ginobili (54th Pick)

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    Galileo should kill himself..

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    Galileo should kill himself..
    Thank you

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    U have to be kidding right?


    HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH

    LOL

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    Jordan never rolled over and died in games the way Tim has and still does (see today's game against PHX). Jordan was the most supremely confident and skilled player the game has ever seen, on top of being one of its greatest athletes.

    I think Tim is an all-time great but he's too inconsistent a scorer to be mentioned in the same sentence as MJ.

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    ROFL your post cracks me up..... How old are you, because its pointless arguing with 5 year olds. Lol lets analyze this ignorant post.



    Thats why in most of the posts Ive posted, Ive always supported the Spurs, you're just too arrogant to realize that



    Who was the great big man on the Bull's 6 championship run? none. Jordan (guard) dominated all big men during his time, hence Hakeem, Patrick, Robinson, Mourning, Shaq, couldnt win a championship when the "Guard" Michael Jordan was in town.




    Michael Jordan
    Defensive Player of the year:- (1) 1988
    All Defensive Team First Team (9) 1988-1998

    Tim Duncan
    Defensive Player of the year:- (0)
    All Defensive Team First Team (7) 1999-2003 , 2005 , 2007



    ROFL even funnier than your previous post

    What does that prove??

    Derrick Coleman (1st pick) > Pelvis Ellison (2nd pick) > Darius Miles (3rd pick) > Raymond Felton (5th pick) > Manu Ginobili (54th Pick)
    You make several errors in your analysis. First of all, you can't compare draft order if players were drafted in different years.

    Second, Kobe was a high school player, and Ginobili was a foreign player, they can't be compared with college juniors either, based on draft position.

    Finally, you're a nut of you think jordan was better on defense than Duncan. Duncan is a big man who patrols the paint.

    If jordan were around today, he would be stopped in his tracks by Duncan, if he's lucky enough to get by the pesky Bruce Bowen.

    Meanwhile, Duncan would take Bill Cartright and Stacey King to school.

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    Galileo posts while on acid trips

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    Melvin Turpin > Otis Thorpe > Tim Mcormick > Leon Wood > John Stockton

    You failed again

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