The Spurs passed on Barbosa (to Phoenix) with Josh Howard still on the board a few years back. Don't underestimate POP's contempt for rookies.
They did, but because the situation was different. They were supposedly wanting to clear cap space for Kidd, but more to the point, there seems to be threshold of young players Pop wants to take at any one time. They didn't really need a rookie at that point, but now they do. Question is whether White and Butler count and will continue to count next year (being here).
Not just guards or perimeter forwards. Frankly, I think those guys adjust faster. How about Oberto? For that matter how about Yao. Even a 7'6'' center with a sweet shot and great Fts took a year or so to really adjust.
Not saying that Scola couldn't play here, but it might take a while to be as productive as he has been in Europe. Meanwhile, how old is he and how many years are left if takes a season to adjust. And in a year filled with Pfs he may not have the value he had a year or two ago.
If the Spurs stick with their pick in the 1st:
Thaddeus Young
or
Alando Tucker
Tucker will be a huge mistake to take in the first. Young has potential and is very raw, I dont think he should come out, but if he does I doubt he would be there when we picked.
Chicago is no. 8 right now. Are we gonna get their pick? What do you all think
judge by this.1.) Dal 62 12
2.) Pho 56 18
3.) San 53 21
4.) Uta 48 26
5.) Det 48 27
6.) Hou 47 28
7.) Cle 45 30
8.) Chi 45 31
9.) Tor 42 33
10.) Mia 40 34
11.) Was 39 35
12.) LAL 39 36
If Im correct, Alando Tucker is a SF, something tells me the Spurs will upgrade either this or something else, and that they may want to use Scola to move up for their guy. Either that or they finally bring him over to establish trade value and to see what they got on their hands. And I take it that Tucker will not turn out to be what he was in college.
A win over Toronto tonight would increase their chances of staying within the top 9, especially since the Raptors are only two spots behind them. LeBron's free throw shooting this afternoon helped, too. The Bulls have a fairly easy schedule from here on out, so I'd say the odds are pretty good that the Spurs will get that pick from them after all (probably the 53rd).
Nevermind. That record sheet is old. My bad.
I'd bet San Antonio gets the Bulls' pick. Looks good at this point.
Alando Tucker with the #28 is a good pick. He's a smart player and could turn into a heady bench guy, but his size isn't great. Thaddeus Young with that pick would be extremely good, but unlikely.
Im just not a fan of Tucker, I love his heart and will, but his size his a huge knock against him. He has no gueard skills, and will be way to short to play as a forward at the next level. I guess he could always pan out though
Probably not. Players too small for their position rarely pan out in the NBA.
Young's performance in the tournament could of dropped his stock a bit.
He has good length, a 7-1 wingspan, has huge upside (18yrs old), and has a sweet stroke.
Hoping Young is there at the Spurs pick looks unlikely, but you never know.
There are still workouts that need to occur and that can raise or drop his stock.
However, a great system, a great coach, and great players around him....Young can turn out being a huge steal in the 1st.
If the Spurs can move up to the late teens...18 or 19...or....early 20's....he can be there for sure....unless he has amazing workouts.
Young would be a fantastic pick-up for the Spurs, but I just don't see how they could move up the 10 or so spots it would probably take to land him.
Well, this is all a bit premature until the field is set. After the early declaration deadline, we'll have a better idea of who's available under 22, especially Euros.
There are intimations now Julian Wright might enter the draft after all, thereby making this draft even crazier deep, pushing another good SF down closer to the Spurs' range, and making it even more likely someone very good could be there with the Milwaukee pick. Though some might not like Alando Tucker with the first rounder, I think everyone would agree he'd be a steal with the Milwaukee pick.
This draft could restock the spurs, if they play the cards right.
If we can get one guy in Europe, one draft pick and White to all be a part of next year's rotation, that'd be a miracle. This team needs some young blood.
One guy from Europe - like Mahinmi or Scola you mean? All that is do-able. If the Spurs manage to trade up into even the early 20s, they'll get a lottery-type talent. If they stay at #28 it's a bit more iffy.
Doubtfull they will move up.
Teams usually don't want to help them do that.
We'll see. No one will help them for the fun of it, but the Spurs have some assets.
While that is true about most situations, teams like Atlanta & Boston have an abundance of young players & at some point they are going to have to start getting some veterans & other assets. Thats where the Spurs come in. We can give up expiring contracts, up to 4 draft picks this year, or future picks, Euro talent and or a couple of young players on reasonable contracts like Beno & Butler, who happen to play positions that those teams need to address.
Actually, this year might be the year the Spurs actually do move up.
They have known since last year this draft was going to be deep and they have multiple picks, expiring contracts, and foreign rights (good ones at that) to easily move up.
Teams know this draft is deep and would love multiple picks. At the same time, the Spurs do no harm to themselves by keeping the picks too.
However, if they truly want a talented player....and need to move up to nab him....it might not be as difficult as they have found it to be in previous years.
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yes, exactly. this may be the easiest year to move up they've had.
anyone think its possible to move into the top 15?
I don't think so (sadly). There is an outside chance their first, Scola, the Milwaukee pick and possibly one other thing (future first) could move them to 13 or 14, I guess. It'd be so much easier if they were 24 or so instead of 28.
If Hawes, Julian Wright, Batum are all in the draft, I could see a guy like Jeff Green tumble to the late teens.
DX has the Bulls getting the Knicks' pick at #11 and picking Tiago Splitter (ignore that they have Spencer Hawes picked later, who is a better fit). Wouldn't Chicago at least consider the Spurs trading up with Splitter's more offensively capable teammate Scola, plus some other incentives? I doubt the #28 and #33 would be enough there, but a package at that point might be more attractive than simply Splitter.
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