Spurs' future draft picks

[mardigan]

Any chance Tiago Splitter drops to the end of the first round because of buyout concerns and scouts souring on him? He's smart, has good post skills, plays good defense, and he would allow the Spurs the opportunity to trade Scola's rights and get something in return...what do you think?

Guy has no offensive scoring ability, but he is a big tough defender, I would think that if he somehow slipped that far the Spurs would have a hard time not taking him

[Mr. Body]

Any chance Tiago Splitter drops to the end of the first round because of buyout concerns and scouts souring on him? He's smart, has good post skills, plays good defense, and he would allow the Spurs the opportunity to trade Scola's rights and get something in return...what do you think?

He could drop to the 20s. The problem with going so late at 28 is that there's enough crowing and cawing about players perceived to have gone higher that someone is bound to grab them before you. Phoenix has a handful of picks this year and probably doesn't want to use them all - I could see them taking Splitter and stashing him for a year. But it would be funny to see San Antonio subsequently draft Scola's teammate and bring him over instead.

I don't think any top 15 talent (including Splitter) will drop to 28.

[mardigan]

All 4 of the Gator boys are coming out

[Mr. Body]

All 4 of the Gator boys are coming out

I always thought there was something fishy going on with them.

[mardigan]

Spencer Hawes is going to enter the draft

[Peter]

Chicago has the 10th best record in the league. Should they finish in that position do the Spurs receive Chicago's 2nd round pick?

[Peter]

Ok, I checked it out. They have to finish with the 9th best (top 51 protected) for the Spurs to receive the pick.

[texbound]

Chicago has the 10th best record in the league. Should they finish in that position do the Spurs receive Chicago's 2nd round pick?

As of today, Chicago is sitting at eight. Unless I'm missing something in regards to the seedings. If not, then the Bulls actualy have a chance of jumping up 1 or 2 slots

1.) Dal 62 12
2.) Pho 56 18
3.) San 53 21
4.) Uta 48 26
5.) Det 48 27
6.) Hou 47 28
7.) Cle 45 30
8.) Chi 45 31
9.) Tor 42 33
10.) Mia 40 34
11.) Was 39 35
12.) LAL 39 36

[AFBlue]

Guy has no offensive scoring ability, but he is a big tough defender, I would think that if he somehow slipped that far the Spurs would have a hard time not taking him

Tiago has been very aggressive and is being utilized more at Tau as the season has wore on.

His stats in the Euroleague playoffs....

14pts and 5+ rebounds in 24 mpg average, hitting 18 twice

In the two "final four" playoff games here's the stat line...

5pts 5rebs in game one, then 18pts 9rebs in the next


He's shooting over 57% on the season, averaging 11ppg and 6rpg....that ain't bad.

[AFBlue]

Spencer Hawes is going to enter the draft

Great news...along with the Gators declaring (which was inevitable). The more prospects the better....

[Mr. Body]

This draft is going to be ridiculous. The NBA can go on this one for years.

[AFBlue]

This draft is going to be ridiculous. The NBA can go on this one for years.

I'm giddy....

[Mr. Body]

I know Travis Outlaw was discussed somewhere in this thread. I was just looking at some youtube videos of him. He's a block machine and has good anticipation for steals. A bit underwhelming in production in other areas so far in his career, but not yet 23. Someone speculated he could be available, and I wonder if the Blazers wind up with Corey Brewer or someone if he might be had. There are certainly enough good SF prospects floating around, someday it seems we should get one.

[Pugglekicker_21]

I like Antanas Kavaliauskas. But im not sure if he will enter, or if the spurs want him...

[mardigan]

I like Antanas Kavaliauskas. But im not sure if he will enter, or if the spurs want him...

I dont think either

[wildbill2u]

I'm not sure Scola was worth a first rounder straight up in a bad year - hard to tell. Obviously that would be best. If the Spurs could move up the Milwaukee pick into the first round using Scola, that would be aces, but I honestly don't know what Scola is worth. Looking at it, Scola for the #22 does seem reasonable. The Spurs could try to turn around and trade the 22 and 28 up into the teens, but that may be tough. Teams don't have a lot of roster spaces lying around.

I'm wondering if the Scola ship has sailed. There are a LOT of good young PFs coming into this draft. While Scola has proven himself in Euro leagues, the book on Euros coming into the NBA is that it takes at least a year to adjust to the NBA style of play. His value, considering this year's draft, may not be as great as before, even with another year of that terrible contract off the books.

[AFBlue]

I know Travis Outlaw was discussed somewhere in this thread. I was just looking at some youtube videos of him. He's a block machine and has good anticipation for steals. A bit underwhelming in production in other areas so far in his career, but not yet 23. Someone speculated he could be available, and I wonder if the Blazers wind up with Corey Brewer or someone if he might be had. There are certainly enough good SF prospects floating around, someday it seems we should get one.

Blazers could go SF in the draft, or they could add one of the PFs (Horford) freeing them up to get rid of Randolph if that's the direction the organization wants to go.

Side Note: I was the one that suggested Outlaw and I think it's a possibility, but he's restricted FA so Portland would have the opportunity to match. If they get a SF, then that chance significantly decreases....remember they also have Martell Webster and Darius Miles should be back next year with his $10M salary...

[AFBlue]

I'm wondering if the Scola ship has sailed. There are a LOT of good young PFs coming into this draft. While Scola has proven himself in Euro leagues, the book on Euros coming into the NBA is that it takes at least a year to adjust to the NBA style of play. His value, considering this year's draft, may not be as great as before, even with another year of that terrible contract off the books.

Most of those "Euros" you speak about are guards or perimeter-oriented forwards that have to adjust to the NBA three-point line and defenses. That's not to say Scola wouldn't have to adjust to the more athletic post defenders, but I think since he relies on a game closer to the basket he'll have less of an adjustment period.

On his trade value, I've always maintained that the Spurs would be best served bringing him over and letting his game establish his trade value, rather than being an unknown commodity without a contract. But, if his "ship has sailed" it'll be interesting to see what the Spurs get for him.

[AFBlue]

BTW, Scola and Splitter (previously discussed) both had HUGE nights against Olympiakos in their second game of the Euroleague semifinals...

Scola's Line: 20 points on 6/13 from the field and 8/9 from the FT line in 30 minutes. He also had 10 rebounds, 3 assists, 3 steals, and 2 blocks.

Splitter's Line: 18 points on 7/9 from the field and 4/9 from the FT line in 32 minutes. He also had 9 rebounds, 2 steals, and a block.

It's kind of nice for the Spurs to have the luxury of a guy like Scola as a trade piece or future starter.

[Nbadan]

Yeah, I'm not sure the Spurs pass on this draft, not with a good draft and especially not with an aging roster. I'm not sure what they could toss their picks away for and I'm not sure how they come away after having three to four picks with not even a single rookie on the roster.

The Spurs passed on Barbosa (to Phoenix) with Josh Howard still on the board a few years back. Don't underestimate POP's contempt for rookies.

[Mr. Body]

The Spurs passed on Barbosa (to Phoenix) with Josh Howard still on the board a few years back. Don't underestimate POP's contempt for rookies.

They did, but because the situation was different. They were supposedly wanting to clear cap space for Kidd, but more to the point, there seems to be threshold of young players Pop wants to take at any one time. They didn't really need a rookie at that point, but now they do. Question is whether White and Butler count and will continue to count next year (being here).

[wildbill2u]

Most of those "Euros" you speak about are guards or perimeter-oriented forwards that have to adjust to the NBA three-point line and defenses. That's not to say Scola wouldn't have to adjust to the more athletic post defenders, but I think since he relies on a game closer to the basket he'll have less of an adjustment period.

On his trade value, I've always maintained that the Spurs would be best served bringing him over and letting his game establish his trade value, rather than being an unknown commodity without a contract. But, if his "ship has sailed" it'll be interesting to see what the Spurs get for him.

Not just guards or perimeter forwards. Frankly, I think those guys adjust faster. How about Oberto? For that matter how about Yao. Even a 7'6'' center with a sweet shot and great Fts took a year or so to really adjust.

Not saying that Scola couldn't play here, but it might take a while to be as productive as he has been in Europe. Meanwhile, how old is he and how many years are left if takes a season to adjust. And in a year filled with Pfs he may not have the value he had a year or two ago.

[El_Mago]

If the Spurs stick with their pick in the 1st:

Thaddeus Young
or
Alando Tucker

[mardigan]

If the Spurs stick with their pick in the 1st:

Thaddeus Young
or
Alando Tucker

Tucker will be a huge mistake to take in the first. Young has potential and is very raw, I dont think he should come out, but if he does I doubt he would be there when we picked.

[wildbill2u]

Chicago is no. 8 right now. Are we gonna get their pick? What do you all think