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    Reports have it that the Lakers were looking into trading Gasol to Cleveland for Andrew Bynum in order to save money from the luxury tax.

    I'd assume they would acquire him and then decline the 2nd half of his deal.

    Gasol is making about $19.3 million this season, Bynum at $12.5 (though he can be cut and the 9th and the team cave save $6.5 million dollars)

    Cleveland may have to include another player to make the salaries work (Gee, Clark, Waiters) + a cheap throw in would make it work. The Lakers would have to move another player as well because of roster space.

    The deal has been discussed but the Lakers probably won't do it according to the second link.



    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...edly-discussed

    http://www.upi.com/Sports_News/2014/...7311388559265/

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    apparently Andre Miller and Brian Shaw are at each other's throats, and that Miller is a trade candidate. Miller makes 5 million a year. Bonner/De Colo could work or something along those lines

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    Unless Miller can defend Reggie Jackson he'd be a terrible fit on the Spurs. Way too ball dominant.

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    Unless Miller can defend Reggie Jackson he'd be a terrible fit on the Spurs. Way too ball dominant.

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    Andre Miller is a statue on Defense.

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    I'm thinking more and more about trading Kawhi tbh...

    Pop is set on playing Tiago and Ayers thus the SF needs to shoots the 3. And don't say it's just the regular season, people including Pop decided Sjax became useless in the regular season...

    30% 3 point shooting doesn't cut it in todays nba... He won't be considered a blue chip anymore once he gets paid so imo it'd be a legit move...

    Green can be a good backup 3. You get another great shooter and all a sudden you become a scary 3 point shooting team, TP is shooting it better than ever, you have two elite shooters in the league in Green and Marco... You get a good 3 point shooting SF and then it becomes scary.

    Kawhi for Terrence Ross and the Raptors 2014 first tbh...

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    I'm thinking more and more about trading Kawhi tbh...

    Pop is set on playing Tiago and Ayers thus the SF needs to shoots the 3. And don't say it's just the regular season, people including Pop decided Sjax became useless in the regular season...

    30% 3 point shooting doesn't cut it in todays nba... He won't be considered a blue chip anymore once he gets paid so imo it'd be a legit move...

    Green can be a good backup 3. You get another great shooter and all a sudden you become a scary 3 point shooting team, TP is shooting it better than ever, you have two elite shooters in the league in Green and Marco... You get a good 3 point shooting SF and then it becomes scary.

    Kawhi for Terrence Ross and the Raptors 2014 first tbh...
    Even though Kawhi is hugely overrated on this board, that package is nothing for him, TBH. I really think Kawhi has regressed in EVERY element of his game. I think, that the Finals performance was more of a fluke, than actual presence. He is even worse than last year's regular season and it is mainly on Pop, so solving this issue isn't easy. IMHO, he should be part of the second unit, he could produce in that lineup, while he is basically useless with the first unit. If Kawhi is really our future franchise player, we will be a lottery team, TBH.
    Our system makes the SF's do nothing more than corner three shooting players and that sucks, TBH. It wasn't on RJ, is not really on Kawhi. It is fully on Pop.
    I am thinking Trevor Ariza, Luigi Datome, Carlos Delfino, Kyle Korver or even Singler, or possbily having Green and Stalonelli as our starters and having Manu-Leo come off the bench, but then our defense will fall.
    Not an easy task.

    Edit: Tobias Harris would be an outstanding fit, IMO, much better than Leonard.
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    Even though Kawhi is hugely overrated on this board, that package is nothing for him, TBH. I really think Kawhi has regressed in EVERY element of his game. I think, that the Finals performance was more of a fluke, than actual presence. He is even worse than last year's regular season and it is mainly on Pop, so solving this issue isn't easy. IMHO, he should be part of the second unit, he could produce in that lineup, while he is basically useless with the first unit. If Kawhi is really our future franchise player, we will be a lottery team, TBH.
    Our system makes the SF's do nothing more than corner three shooting players and that sucks, TBH. It wasn't on RJ, is not really on Kawhi. It is fully on Pop.
    I am thinking Trevor Ariza, Luigi Datome, Carlos Delfino, Kyle Korver or even Singler, or possbily having Green and Stalonelli as our starters and having Manu-Leo come off the bench, but then our defense will fall.
    Not an easy task.

    Edit: Tobias Harris would be an outstanding fit, IMO, much better than Leonard.
    Yeah Ross + first is probably not enough but there's not that many good defensive SF with good 3pt shooting on projected POs teams (non POs teams would just wait and hope for Wiggins or Parker).

    Ross recently shut down Paul George and is a much better shooter than KY that's why he was fresh in my mind.

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    Rob I'd rather get rid of T-Vag but it's not happening so they gotta find a solution... Kawhi has much better trade value anyway, from a moneyball perspective it makes sense imo. It's not very Spurs like tho but then again who knows, it's not like Pop never traded his favorite player because he was a questionable fit with limited upside...

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    Rob I'd rather get rid of T-Vag but it's not happening so they gotta find a solution... Kawhi has much better trade value anyway, from a moneyball perspective it makes sense imo. It's not very Spurs like tho but then again who knows, it's not like Pop never traded his favorite player because he was a questionable fit with limited upside...
    This isn't baseball where you can slot a major piece in mid-season. Contenders typically stand pat, while teams that aren't competing for a le will shake things up. Don't expect anything groundbreaking at least until the end of the year. Pop isn't going to stand for anyone getting major minutes who hasn't been through training camp.

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    Any chance in we could get Chandler from the Knicks?

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    When will you guys see that Leonard is not a great fit in the Pop system? How much more devastating losses do you need?
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    Any chance in we could get Chandler from the Knicks?

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    Kawhi + Bonner for Jordan Hill + Wesley Johnson + unprotected 2014 first tbh

    Then Beli for anything, a tall backup point like Fournier would be nice...

    Duncan Hill
    Splitter Diaw
    Johnson Gino
    Green Gino
    TP Fournier

    Better spacing and rebounding while looking at the future...
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    Here is a trade to shake things up.

    Spurs get:

    Michael Carter-Williams PG 6'5"- having a great rookie year.long and athletic
    Thaddeus Young SF/PF 6'9"- plays backup SF and also small ball 4. helps kawhi. rumored he is on the block.


    76ers get:

    Tony Parker- wants to go to the east coast. 76ers use this to sell tickets and make playoff push in east.
    matt bonner- a stretch 4 to play off parker
    danny green- an shooter that is needed in philly.
    spurs 1st round pick.

    PG- MCW, mills, decolo
    SG- belli, manu
    SF- leonard, young
    PF- duncan, diaw, young
    C- splitter, ayres, baynes

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    Here is a trade to shake things up.

    Spurs get:

    Michael Carter-Williams PG 6'5"- having a great rookie year.long and athletic
    Thaddeus Young SF/PF 6'9"- plays backup SF and also small ball 4. helps kawhi. rumored he is on the block.


    76ers get:

    Tony Parker- wants to go to the east coast. 76ers use this to sell tickets and make playoff push in east.
    matt bonner- a stretch 4 to play off parker
    danny green- an shooter that is needed in philly.
    spurs 1st round pick.

    PG- MCW, mills, decolo
    SG- belli, manu
    SF- leonard, young
    PF- duncan, diaw, young
    C- splitter, ayres, baynes
    Shortly after this Duncan announces his retirement. Too much mucking with chemistry if you dump Parker, system goes out the window.
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    Here is a trade to shake things up.

    Spurs get:

    Michael Carter-Williams PG 6'5"- having a great rookie year.long and athletic
    Thaddeus Young SF/PF 6'9"- plays backup SF and also small ball 4. helps kawhi. rumored he is on the block.


    76ers get:

    Tony Parker- wants to go to the east coast. 76ers use this to sell tickets and make playoff push in east.
    matt bonner- a stretch 4 to play off parker
    danny green- an shooter that is needed in philly.
    spurs 1st round pick.

    PG- MCW, mills, decolo
    SG- belli, manu
    SF- leonard, young
    PF- duncan, diaw, young
    C- splitter, ayres, baynes
    Jesus Christ.

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    Tiago splitter and Joseph for Luol Deng. Chicago gets another interior defender who they can shop if they want and another defensive ball handler.

    Pop gets a stretch 4/SF who can plug in play

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    Tiago splitter and Joseph for Luol Deng. Chicago gets another interior defender who they can shop if they want and another defensive ball handler.

    Pop gets a stretch 4/SF who can plug in play

    yea but then you have to find body-bags for all the writers at PTR and 48moh who inexplicably love splitter.

    I would do that

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    yea but then you have to find body-bags for all the writers at PTR and 48moh who inexplicably love splitter.

    I would do that
    In a heartbeat, Deng is a solution when Pop ultimately goes small ball and he will go small ball

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    Hedo Turkoglu is being waived, any chance we could pick him up? Fills a need with a backup SF.

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    Deng would be ideal on this team. I'm sure the FO is aware and have looked into it. We need exactly that kind of player. I'm thankful for the spark Beli has brought offensively, but it's our defense that most bothers me.

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    get andrew mu in bynum if he gets released

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    Hedo Turkoglu is being waived, any chance we could pick him up? Fills a need with a backup SF.
    I would like, one thing is certain, something needs to change

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