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Official trade idea thread: http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...37#post6950937
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here is a trade with denver. all 3 of the guys coming from denver are not getting any time and are burried on their depth chart.
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=qbzavaa
Denver gets:
PG/SG nando de colo- this guy can be the 3rd PG and future back up for when andre miller retires. he can also play some 2.
SG danny green- green gives them a dead eye 3 point shooter to go around their athletes. would start for them too. with foye off the bench.
SA gets:
SF quincy miller 6'9" 220- a long SF that can shoot and has some athleticism. would fit great in the spurs system. and can give kawhi 10-15 off a night or play the 4 in small ball.
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Quincy-Miller-5764/
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6611/quincy-miller
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_Id43mA2F4
SG evan fournier 6'6" 20- comes in as the 3rd SG. allows bellineli or ginobli to move into the starting lineup. kid has very good game and can give manu rest on back to backs. and take over for him when he retires. has a very similar game, just not quite as athletic as manu was. fits right in with our french connection.
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Evan-Fournier-5719/
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6588/evan-fournier
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QakmCkBHD10
PF anthony randolph 6'11" 220- gets thrown in to make the money work. also a guy pop has had his eye on before. could help now with diaw injury. but probably inactive most of the year until bonner is traded.
PG- parker, mills, cojo
SG- many, marco, evan
SF- kawhi, miller
PF- duncan, diaw, bonner, randolph
C- splitter, aryes, baynes
Official trade idea thread: http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...37#post6950937
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I've changed the le of the thread to make it a place where people could discuss about trade ideas they have and about players rumored on the trading block. You can also talk about free agents who could be signed with the 15th roster spot.
This thread will be stick on top and other threads talking about players will be closed unless there is a source linking them directly to Spurs.
I love Fornier, tbh...
sorry about that.
Thanks.
Few people actually use the Think Tank part of the forum so we will also have a thread about that here.
Makes sense - thanks!
Regarding the trade idea of the first post, trading Green for end of the bench players seems kinda awful.
green is a replacable piece. was an end of the bench guy himself until he came here. fournier shows more potential that green has. and miller could be a really good player in our system. He isn't a superb athlete, but has a very good shot and brings a lot of length to help on the wing.
we need a backup for kawhi. if he was to get hurt we would be in serious trouble. I don't think miller is a starter or anything but he brings tools to the table we could use. he is a scorer and that could be used on the second team. and he brings a lot of length for that second unit too for defensive purposes.
Pop isn't going to play some no-name scrub that doesn't know the system, tbh..any player the Spurs acquire has to have some experience in the league..
The only hole on the roster is another SF that can play small-ball 4 when Kawhi is struggling or is in foul trouble..Spurs can't expect Green/Manu/Beli to guard SFs, especially long SFs that will over power them or just shoot over them..the player in question also should be a capable offensive player and a veteran that will earn Pop's trust..
The only players that fit this criteria and could be realistically acquired IMO: Earl Clark and Trevor Ariza, tbh..
Clark has been terrible with the Cavs, but he's still shooting the 3 at a high %, he would fit well with the Spurs IMO..
Ariza would be absolutely perfect for the Spurs IMO, he would be the ideal addition, but his stock is higher than it was during the off-season after a hot start so far..
Amir Johnson would also be ideal, since he's athletic enough to defend the perimeter, he's also been rumoured to be moved and has been recently demoted, but I doubt Pop would trade Bonner, tbh..
Is it me, or is "Oficial" misspelled in the thread le.
It's you
Listen I was trying to be as realistic as possible. Ariza isn't going any where. He is playing big minutes and they are winning. Washington thinks they can make a playoff push in the east. Especially after their gortat trade.
The only hole on the roster is another SF that can play small-ball 4 when Kawhi is struggling or is in foul trouble..Spurs can't expect Green/Manu/Beli to guard SFs, especially long SFs that will over power them or just shoot over them..the player in question also should be a capable offensive player and a veteran that will earn Pop's trust..
The only players that fit this criteria and could be realistically acquired IMO: Earl Clark and Trevor Ariza, tbh..
Clark has been terrible with the Cavs, but he's still shooting the 3 at a high %, he would fit well with the Spurs IMO..
Ariza would be absolutely perfect for the Spurs IMO, he would be the ideal addition, but his stock is higher than it was during the off-season after a hot start so far..
Amir Johnson would also be ideal, since he's athletic enough to defend the perimeter, he's also been rumoured to be moved and has been recently demoted, but I doubt Pop would trade Bonner, tbh..
Clark can't be traded as he was a free agent signing. It has to be a certain amount of time. And they aren't trading him after just signing him.
These guys aren't scrubs. All 3 we're first round picks, and are still young. Booth Miller and fournier have very high potential. And Randolph can play that 4 in small ball, and pop has been interested in him before.
Realistically, the Spurs aren't going to trade for anybody, tbh, I just named players that could easily be traded..Ariza's deal ends at the end of the year, the Wizards are a below average team, he's far from untouchable, especially since he's been rumoured to be in trade talks in the past..
Clark can be traded in mid-December and he's far from untouchable, especially on a team that is on the verge of blowing up..he has also been a non-factor in Cleveland and doesn't fit in Mike Brown's poor offensive system..
Pop would never play that scrub Quincy Miller this season(), Fournier doesn't solve any of the Spurs flaws(starting Beli, Fournier or Manu kills the defense), and Anthony Randolph ing sucks and has never been able to earn a rotation spot, despite fans of every team hyping him every season
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Good to have all the trade ideas rounded up to one thread, tbh.
I know right!
Any trade idea that's essentially trading Green for prospects is a bad one. He's pretty untouchable, and the only way it makes sense for the Spurs to move him this season is as part of a package for a better player. We're talking a star. As far as role-players go, they don't get much better than Green.
The problem that the availlable ""stars"" like Evan Turner would be rentals... I'd only consider it if Tim wants to retire at the end of the season...
Personally I don't think the Spurs can afford not to make a move when they're getting torched by all these smallball teams... Even a team like Warriors now is a headache with Iguadola preventing the Spurs to switch the D...
I'd trade for the future with projects because I'm just not optimistic about their chances this year as constructed anyway.
Something like Green + Bonbon for Karasev + Bennett, buy low and sell high, you get the needed combo forward and you just insert Marco and Boris in the starting lineup...
TD Splitter
Boris Bennett
Kawhi Karasev
Marco Gino
TP Mills
Boris gonna start most PO series again anyway, the writing is on the wall.
The Spurs are a fine small-ball team. The Rockets are just a better one. No shame for admitting that. But the answer is not to trade Green. , just sign Malcolm Thomas or wait and buy out Bertans. Bennett is not going to make or break the roster.
Looks like Malcolm Thomas has been signed by a NBA team. We'll see which team it is.
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Still see no reason for an immediate trade. Spurs will do well to wait till January end or February to trade for a veteran with a decent IQ and from an underperforming/over-salaried team.
If things continue as they stand in the NBA, a few SF/PF or even SF/SG veterans could likely be available.
Like Andrei Kirilenko if the stubborn but pathetic Nets decide to cut their overblown salaries; or Mike Dunleavy if the Bulls want to maintain their no-luxury tax ever record (and which they probably would love to after Rose went down); or someone like John Salmons even.
The Spurs might even wait till the waiver deadline to get things done.
The trouble is that even if teams are doing badly like the Nets and the Knicks; the EC is so bad that they would still think that they could make the playoffs.
Danny Green for Fournier and Faried.
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=qx7ohvb
Malcolm Thomas called by the Spurs -
Hearing: Malcolm Thomas will soon be on his way to San Antonio as a D-League callup from the LA D-Fenders
San Antonio has had @Malcolm4Thomas in its program before both w/Spurs & Austin Toros. Pulled from D-Fenders' game tonight vs. Bakersfield
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