View Poll Results: are the spurs better without parker?

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  1. #526
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    i'm too smart to underestimate how dumb some people are on here. i didn't know you were making a joke.
    Fair enough, how about those Spurs

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    I don't want to ever see a lineup of Gasol/Parker/Anderson/Dedmond on the floor at the same time at any point during the season. That is a catastrophe waiting to happen

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    parker defenders are out in full force tonight.

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    exactly what i thought spurstalk.

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    PTS AST STL +/-
    tony 9 4 0 -12
    patty 11 5 4 35

    both shot the same %.

    the team looks alive when tp hits the bench. we move faster, patty brings the ball up the court quicker, the ball moves. all things i've said before.

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    PTS AST STL +/-
    tony 9 4 0 -12
    patty 11 5 4 35

    both shot the same %.

    the team looks alive when tp hits the bench. we move faster, patty brings the ball up the court quicker, the ball moves. all things i've said before.

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    I thought TP played his role pretty well versus the Warriors. He had some flashes on offense and he distributed the ball and kept the flow going okay. Whenever the ball came back to him, he tried to make a play. Defensively, it was difficult to judge how effective he really was because of the Spurs' strategy, switching so often.

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    He was garbage. We got kawhi and lma to win games.

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    Sigh. Parker played very well. Patty just played better. If this is the Tony that the Spurs will get every game, they're contenders.

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    Sigh. Parker played very well. Patty just played better.
    this thread isn't about one game. the thread is about how the spurs are a different and better team when parker is on the bench. we play much more fluidly without parker dictating the offense.

    If this is the Tony that the Spurs will get every game, they're contenders.
    4 assists and 2 turnovers in 26 minutes isn't worth $30 million over the next two years.

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    this thread isn't about one game. the thread is about how the spurs are a different and better team when parker is on the bench. we play much more fluidly without parker dictating the offense.
    Parker didn't dictate anything. He let Kawhi and LMA do all the heavy lifting while doing his job against Klay and making timely, though unnecessary shots.

    4 assists and 2 turnovers in 26 minutes isn't worth $30 million over the next two years.
    That's true, but that's what he's getting paid, so who cares? Would you rather him use more possessions to bump up those stats?

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    This is such a stupid thread because what the Parker haters fail to realize is that when Parker is out of the game it's the Spurs bench vs. the opponent's bench. The Spurs for years have featured a strong bench led by Ginobili. So of course you can throw around +\- numbers of Parker vs. Mills, but that's just saying that the Spurs have a good bench.

    Don't forget that Parker is going against the starters, and Patty is going against the scrubs, often in meaningless garbage time. You don't think Durant would have shot over Mills just the same as Parker? It's ridiculous that so called "fans" on this site trash Parker when he is respected around the league.

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    This is such a stupid thread because what the Parker haters fail to realize is that when Parker is out of the game it's the Spurs bench vs. the opponent's bench.
    from another thread:
    parker's ass was on the bench for:

    -game 6 against the mavs in 2003


    -game 6 against the nets in 2003


    -game 5 against the grizzles in 2011 (regulation + overtime)

    -game 6 against okc in 2014 (regulation + overtime)


    -game 3 against the grizzles in 2016

    those are just some 4th quarters i can remember off the top of my head.
    i could post more 4th quarters in close games that he wasn't on the floor but spurstalk has a limit of videos in a post.

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    coach nick just tweeted:
    In a game where the Spurs beat the Warriors by 29 points, the most used Spurs lineup (starters) got hammered



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    coach nick just tweeted:
    Interesting. I guess it was a means to an end. Spurs dominated the glass and drove to the cup with a purpose.

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    Does op think we need a better pg to take the ball out of kawhi's hand? That's what I hear.

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    coach nick just tweeted:
    Maybe gsw has four all stars in their starting line up? I

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    Does op think we need a better pg to take the ball out of kawhi's hand? That's what I hear.
    it's truly incredible how you manage to never learn.

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    it's truly incredible how you manage to never learn.
    No, I too think a defensive pg would be better than Parker. But I'm not going to bump a thread about it everytimeI feel lonely.

    I don't usually complain about the spurs beating the best team in basketball, but I suppose you could

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    Can anyone tell me if Parker ed Gambit mom/sister/boyfriend?

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    MVPatty is the best point guard on the Spurs. He deserves to be the starter. Everyone sees it other than Porker's fluffers.

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    PTS AST STL +/-
    tony 9 4 0 -12
    patty 11 5 4 35

    both shot the same %.

    the team looks alive when tp hits the bench. we move faster, patty brings the ball up the court quicker, the ball moves. all things i've said before.
    Dedmon was +29. If you really want to go by single-game +/- stats, good luck. Especially when you're comparing a starter to a bench player. It's awesome how Mills can outplay the nonexistent bench of the Warriors. We all get it. This game was won by the starters keeping up with theirs.

    Also, why do you always leave out the categories that Parker outplayed Mills in, like rebounds? Do you literally just find whichever stats Patty had better than Parker and leave out the others every time you do these comparisons?

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    Dedmon was +29. If you really want to go by single-game +/- stats, good luck.
    count the columns , do you really not know how to read a table? there's more than the +/-:
    PTS AST STL +/-
    tony 9 4 0 -12
    patty 11 5 4 35
    also said this:
    this thread isn't about one game. the thread is about how the spurs are a different and better team when parker is on the bench. we play much more fluidly without parker dictating the offense.

    Also, why do you always leave out the categories that Parker outplayed Mills in, like rebounds? Do you literally just find whichever stats Patty had better than Parker and leave out the others every time you do these comparisons?


    okay, parker out rebounded mills 3-1. you know what else i forgot to put on the table? parker had 2 turnovers, patty had none.

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    tp in the first half against the kings: 0 points, 0 assists. getting paid $14.4 million.

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    Parker is holding this team back. On this NBA you can't be an elite team and not have an elite PG. I'm sorry, but it's the true.

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