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  1. 03-01-2017 #551
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    Whiteside also played in China, tbh..

    To be fair though, he's an athlete. Jimmer is, well, melaninless
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    So three players out of thousands the past 5-10 years, were able to play in the NBA post China stint.

    Yup, I say screw the draft process, lets just scour the market in China. Odds are there right?
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  3. 03-01-2017 #553
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    You never know where you'll find talent. Keeping that perspective helped the Spurs get Manu back in the day when Euro ball was deemed beneath the NBA. I don't see Jimmer coming back to the NBA full time, but he's a borderline NBA talent and a cut above what you would call the scrubs from the US that play in China. I could see him getting a look or two from an NBA team for the rest he of the season, but we all believe he can't be a contributor on a good team on an NBA level.
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  4. 03-01-2017 #554
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    Quote Originally Posted by SAGirl
    And the Spurs released Nico bc they wanted to develop Dijon and he earned it.

    It doesn't accomplish much for the Spurs long term to keep signing TOSB to take what little playing time they can afford to give to their young players this season. They did that last season with Kevin Martin and Andre Miller, and those guys weren't a factor in the postseason.

    If they sign Calderon now he will need repe ions with the team etc. All they will accomplish with that is to get what little playing time they could afford to give Dijon this season to evaporate.

    Consider all the time Pop spent last season trying to get a TOSB acclimated like Kevin Martin and he never, ever made the rotation. In fact they started losing games once he joined, he ended up the worst player in the team... with the distinction of having the only negative +/- in that historically great regular season team. He didn't really contribute anything... to the point that just keeping RAsual Butler would have been better. Then on top of that suck salad, he added the bacon bits of taking playing time from both Anderson and Simmons who did play in the playoffs and could have used that time to get better themselves as they were both essentially rookies (Kyle wasn't but heck, he didn't play much at all his first season, nor was he relied on for anything). It's a lesson for Pop IMO.

    Looking at their cap situation next season, they have to play the long game. Blocking youngsters from playing time this season who are already not in the rotation anyways to the point they wouldn't play at all doesn't accomplish anything, except basically delay their development bc Pop will need them anyways. And I agree with you too. Forbes is here for the long game, next season basically.
    May I change my order? No suck salad for me. I want a rib eye with Dijon sauce. Please just forget I ever expressed interest in Calderon. Please don't hold it against me. And please take this suck salad away!

    All seriousness aside - excellent arguments!
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  5. 03-01-2017 #555
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    Quote Originally Posted by sasaint
    May I change my order? No suck salad for me. I want a rib eye with Dijon sauce. Please just forget I ever expressed interest in Calderon. Please don't hold it against me. And please take this suck salad away!

    All seriousness aside - excellent arguments!
    Lol humor is what keeps me visiting this site my friend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cd98
    I kid about Jimmer but per Woj, NBA teams are talking to him about coming over after the Chinese season ends. TBH, if you were a franchise speeding towards the lottery, why not sign him through the end of the year. He's not going to win you games, but he's popular enough to sell tickets when no one should care.
    If the Jazz were tanking it would be a match made in whatever version of heaven it is that Mormons believe in.

    But most fans have forgotten about him at this point. He had his Linsanity moment in college and it's gone now.
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    If Spurs were from California, Matt Barnes would have signed with them years ago.
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    I don't know, but last night's game has me rethinking the idea of signing Jose Calderon, Dijon is ok but he is young and we might need another option at PG, cut Anthony now that Pau is back and our 4 bigs are all contributing (LMA, Pau, DD, and DLee) or Forbes because he simply hasn't flashed anything that says 'we have to keep him, he just needs more time'.
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    I hate the Joel Anthony signing. No reason he should be available over Forbes considering how unreliable our shooting guards have been.
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    I don't get this at all. Milwaukee already has a really crowded front court rotation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jyra


    I don't get this at all. Milwaukee already has a really crowded front court rotation.
    Parker is out for the season and Monroe is trash tbh
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    Ah, didn't know about Parker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres
    Calderon has little to zero value in the short term and long term. Sure he'd be insurance in short term , but that insurance has very little value considering how deep Spurs are at the point guard. ( Parker, Mills, Murray)

    I'd rather keep Forbes because he at least has long term value.

    Serious question - not just arguing for the sake of it. Do you really think Murray will play anything more than spot playoff minutes this season. Barring a major injury to Parker or Mills, I mean? I suppose he could go on a growth spurt in the last 23 games, but the way he is right now?

    I'm not in love with Calderon, and he's on the downside of his career. But he's a guy who has had a 50-40-90 season, and has a career AST/TO ratio of something like 4. We all know that there are nights when Patty just can't move the offense, and can't hit a shot to save his ass. The Spurs have had older veteran PG's in the past who have come into playoff games in those exact situations, and made all the difference.

    Bottom line, I really do think Calderon has the ability and experience to be of value in these playoffs. If the Spurs really do sense blood in the water from the other top teams, then he seems like a better use of the roster spot than Forbes. And as for Forbes, I don't think he'd be going anywhere. With all the players available, I doubt that other teams are going to be beating down his door. Even if he's got a place here in the future, the Spurs could have both, IMO.
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    Is Luis Scola still available? The Spurs should sign him to a 10 day contract and if he does good rest of the season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chillen
    Is Luis Scola still available? The Spurs should sign him to a 10 day contract and if he does good rest of the season.
    Nah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht
    Nah.
    Like Joel Anthony is really any better?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chillen
    Like Joel Anthony is really any better?
    Anthony won't and will not take Bertans' already limited minutes. TOSB Scola will tbh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chinook
    I'd rather being Kevin Martin back.
    Why? TBH
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht
    Anthony won't and will not take Bertans' already limited minutes. TOSB Scola will tbh
    Good point
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chillen
    Is Luis Scola still available? The Spurs should sign him to a 10 day contract and if he does good rest of the season.
    They should give him a 10-day, get a press conference with his #4 jersey, then cut him the next day.
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  21. 03-04-2017 #571
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    This is probably why Spurs didn't make a push for Barnes. They don't expect their players to be saints, but Barnes is a bad headline waiting to happen.

    http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/1...ate-nba-finals
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    Adrian Wojnarowski @WojVerticalNBA

    Atlanta has claimed Jose Calderon off waivers, league source tells @TheVertical.
    4:10pm · 4 Mar 2017 · Twitter for iPhone

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    With Kawhi and Aldridge out indefinitely, we gotta cut the worthless pieces of that Joel Anthony and Bryn Forbes are and fill those roster spots with useful players.....

    The leftovers:
    C: JJ Hickson, Chris Kaman, Andrea Bargnani, Kendrick Perkins

    PF: Jared Sullinger, Josh Smith, Amar'e Stoudamire, Carl Landry, Jason Thompson, Luis Scola, Chris Copeland, Tyler Hansbrough, Anthony Bennett

    SF: Omri Casspi, Alonzo Gee, RJ Hunter, Dahntay Jones, Rasual Butler

    SG: Jarrett Jack, Gary Neal, Marcus Thornton, Jordan McRae, Jimmer Fredette

    PG: Grievis Vasquez, Mario Chalmers, Tony Wroten, Phil Pressey, Kirk Hinrich
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    now I want to see washed up Scola on the team just for the update to the Scola threads. Besides, maybe Manu and him together can find some magic left in those beans.
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    Would love if we picked up Sullinger and Jack tbh..

    Chinook would they be playoff eligible even if they played this season with previous teams?
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