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    Lasme - DX's take on him at Portsmouth: http://www.draftexpress.com/viewprofile.php?p=1079
    Comparing him to Justin Williams of the D-League this year.
    Thanks but it's because of what I've read on dx about him that I ask the question.
    I was hoping that someone has seen him played with U Mass this year.

    Could be something down the road, not sure if the Spurs can draft him late and suggest he play overseas. More likely he'd be a training camp cut.
    Spurs won't likely have a roster spot next year for him, I don't see the point to draft someone to cut him three months later. Given that he wasn't playing in a top conference, maybe he should spend a year in europe before coming back in nba like Matt Bonner did. Off course, Spurs should ask him before the draft if he agrees to spend a year in europe.

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rkIBw-jTl4

    Video of Thad Young....number 22....you can see how his 7-1 wingspan makes a difference.

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    Thanks but it's because of what I've read on dx about him that I ask the question.
    I was hoping that someone has seen him played with U Mass this year.
    Ah. I did watch him a little in the NIT. He had game-changing skills at that level, but a lot of work to do. I could see him develop into a heady, hard-working NBA player down the line, but it's hard to project that. He looked compe ive and a fighter. As you say, it's hard to know what the Spurs would do with two late 2nd round picks, as they may have this year. Trade them away to teams that would have them.

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    Video of Thad Young....number 22....you can see how his 7-1 wingspan makes a difference.
    I like him a lot, too, and have defended him on DX boards while their leadership has been down on him. There was this thread where people were calling Chase Budinger a better prospect than him - I don't think so. Young has a great at ude and a very nice skill set. He'd be a project, but Bowen can easily hold down the starting SF spot for another year. If I recall correctly, he's not officially in the draft this year, but if he were and all those other SFs are in the draft, Young definitely drops to the 20s. I think the Spurs have to trade up to get him, but moving up 6-8 spots may not be too difficult.

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    As far as I know, Young is in the draft.

    You're right. Young is rare in the sense that he has all these amazing abilities, but it a bright young man with a good head on his shoulders. In my opinion, he's Spurs material.

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    The last guy the Spurs drafted with a 7' wingspan that people thought could overcome his height disadvantage was Romain Sato. He now probably works as a bank clerk in Altoona, Pa.

    A California condor also has a 7' wingspan, but you don't see them suited up in the NBA because they can shoot, can't defend, and can't rebound either.
    Sato also wasn't Big Ten player of the year, like Tucker. I'd say Alando Tucker is a significantly better player.

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    My bad, you're right...so far he's a 50/50 shot.

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    Well you guys all know who I want, but with how deep this draft is going to be, it looks like the only way we get him is in the second

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    who?

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    The guy in the upper part of my sig, Derrick Byars from Vandy, I really cant say enough about the guy, he is awesome. If you look back pages there are links to vids and articles on him. He will be there when the Spurs pick

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    Well you guys all know who I want, but with how deep this draft is going to be, it looks like the only way we get him is in the second
    Early second round would be perfect for this guy. That way the Spurs don't have to sign him to a long-term deal before figuring out if he or James White should be with the team next year (I doubt the Spurs would/could carry both).

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    I also think it wouldn't be disasterous if the Spurs took the Best Player Available at 28. International guys with buyout concerns (Splitter, Fernandez, Belinelli) could fall. So could guys who are "tweeners" that will have to be taught one primary position (Thornton, McRoberts, Stuckey, Pruitt, T. Young). One final category is the junior/senior who's game has been heavily critiqued because of the time under the spotlight by scouts (Law, Hansborough, M. Williams, Tucker, Byars, Dudley). I think any number of these prospects could fall on draft day and the Spurs would be lucky to pick up one of them with their first two picks.

    My personal hope is that Fernandez/Belinelli drop because of buyout concerns, and that the Spurs pick up a SF prospect (be it a developmental prospect like McGuire or a proven guy like Byars) with the early second rounder.

    I also think it's possible the Spurs grab a rangy PF to hedge against the Horry retirement possibility and being outbid for Bonner...McRoberts, Fazekas, and Jason Smith come to mind.

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    http://www.draftexpress.com/headlines.php#2612

    Third story from top...

    Hasheem Thabeet, Connecticut — Hasn't announced but is expected to. It's early — since he can't play — but he's 7-3. Coach Jim Calhoun says the decision is not about basketball but the family's hardship.
    All, it looks like another young, high-potential prospect may be throwing his name into the draft. Thabeet would probably go in the mid-late first round if he declares.

    He's incredibly raw offensively, but he has great athleticism for a player his size, is a great shotblocker, and has the potential to be a monster rebounder. Mahmoud Saer Sene went #10 last year, and though this draft is deeper, he probably doesn't slip out of the first round...

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rkIBw-jTl4

    Video of Thad Young....number 22....you can see how his 7-1 wingspan makes a difference.
    Wasn't that a highschool age tournament or something? I think he was taller than most of the other players if it was the vid I remember.

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    Quoted from various sources below, though it should come as no suprise...Durant is going Pro. No direct effect on Spurs (except in our dreams!), but adding another prospect to this deepening draft doesn't hurt.

    Apr 10 - At a scheduled 4 p.m. news conference today, Kevin Durant is expected to announce that he will leave school for the challenge of the NBA, according to sources close to the program.
    Coach Rick Barnes said Durant has not told him whether he will leave for the NBA. Barnes said it was important that Durant spent time with his parents the last two weekends, when he received national player of the year awards in Atlanta and Los Angeles. The Pratts have been in Austin since Sunday.

    "I always tell him to follow his heart," Barnes said. "I'd like to think something will be done quickly." -- Austin American-Statesman


    Kevin Durant has decided to turn pro after becoming the first freshman to win all six of the major national player of the year awards, including the Naismith and Wooden awards, according to two sources close to the Texas program. -- Dallas Morning News

    Texas coach Rick Barnes said Monday night he's hoping All-American Kevin Durant decides quickly whether he plans to return for his sop re season or declare for the NBA draft.
    "I'd like to think we'll get something done quickly," Barnes said after the annual Texas basketball banquet at the Erwin Center. "I hope he makes it as quick as he can."

    It is widely speculated that Durant is leaning toward declaring for the NBA draft. A decision could come as early as today, a UT spokesman said. -- Houston Chronicle

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    Another draft entry to report...Davon Hardin. He's a great athlete and a powerful post player, but he'll probably slip to the second round because he hasn't played the game in a while (injury). Still, he's an intriguing prospect.

    Hardin Enters Draft
    Apr 10 - Cal junior center DeVon Hardin, who missed the final 22 games this past season after breaking his foot, has declared for the NBA draft, but he does not plan to not hire an agent, giving him the option of returning to college next season.
    "I'm looking to get an evaluation of my game and find out where I am physically," the said in a statement. "The only way to get better is to compete against the best. I want to see where I stand, and my decision will depend on how I do against those guys.

    "I don't see anything to lose. I'm still going to classes. I want to get feedback from NBA scouts and let them tell me where I stand and what I need to work on." -- Contra Costa Times

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    Hardin is a guy who probably pulls out. He's doing the right thing - hiring no agent, trying to get invited to the pre-draft camps, get some exposure, but ultimately waiting until next year unless for some reason he blows up in the camp scrimmages.

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    Sato also wasn't Big Ten player of the year, like Tucker. I'd say Alando Tucker is a significantly better player.
    My problem is with the 7' wingspan mantra as though it makes up for size. Lots of really good college players don't make it because they're 'tweeners' and can't make up the difference. I'm just saying don't fall in love with a draftee and make excuses for him--unless he's from your school and then you go for it.

    The race is not always to the swift, nor the blocks, rebounds, and shots to the taller athlete, but that's the way it usually works out and that's the way I'd bet.

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    I'm not jocking Alando Tucker. He could fall off the map just as fast as P.J. Tucker. He is a smart ball player and pretty athletic and tough, but his size is not good, as you say. If the Spurs don't trade up at all, that's the player they will be looking at, however.

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    You have been bashed because you speak about a subject you obviously don't know.

    You speak about a team and you don't know the names of the player. It's Vaty, not Vathy. Will I be credible if I speak about Spurs and Brice Bowan ?

    You speak about a team and you don't know at what post players are. Mahinmi and Wright are C with pau, not PF. Will I be credible if I called Horry a SF ?

    You speak about a team and you don't know what happened with this team. Mahinmi never sign to be a starter with Pau, he signed as backup C behind Hiram Fuller. After they failed to sign Fuller and after Mahinmi good summer league, they decided to give the starting spot to Mahinmi but he failed and then they signed Wright. Will I be credible if I say that Spurs have signed Vaughn as starting PG ?

    eastern vacation and I almost miss the best.

    dear Bruno, last time you suddenly jumped at me I was really surprised and couldn't understand why you freak out, this time I see your problem, but unfortunatly I do have to react, because you went overboard.

    I see that you spend so much energy on positioning yourself as the mastermind of this board, the man with the inside knowledge, that you just can't stand, when someone doubts or even contradicts your little stories or "analyses" about our european players.
    now I see why you almost panic, when someone like me just tries to display another (more accurate) picture.
    the problem is, that you try to do it the cheap way, by trying to discredit me, instead of using arguments and facts.

    I once admitted that you do know a lot, but the problem is, you don't know much about European basketball and your try to show this "inside" knowledge by telling stories some on this board (or youself) like to hear.

    like your stupid (just using your words) story about Pau and that they don't play Mahinmi because they develope Vaty.

    and all you can answer is, that I have added an "h" in his name and that's the prove that people shouldn't listen to me.
    well, let people decide if the misspelling of the name of a young French player is equal to the misspelling of the a long time starter on our team, as you assume, or if this is just the desperate try of someone to discredit someone who has another view.
    (btw. I would have bet my right hand, that it is Vathy, not Vaty, when I hear the sports commentators call his name. I bet most French people would also add this "h" in his name and in my language it is also common to add the "h" after the "t". anyhow. I don't think you ever had this problem, because I don't think you ever watched a single Euroleague or French league game)

    if I go into each detail about this claim:
    You speak about a team and you don't know at what post players are. Mahinmi and Wright are C with pau, not PF. Will I be credible if I called Horry a SF ?
    just a few words out of your vocabulary: pathetic. nonsense. stupid.
    maybe you have ever heard, that nowadays the positions of C and PF are very often no longer clearly possible to classify (maybe you have even heard about such a player on the Spurs roster), but in this special case it is even more stupid.
    just because you probably have seen some lists, where Ian is categorized center, this doesn't mean that he in fact only plays center. same with Wright.
    they are both typical power forwards and they play this position and the fact, that Pau doesn't have a single (so -called) typical center on their roster (I don't count Ajinca) has them play mostly 2 PFs in their line up.
    if it helps you to call one of them "center", because you learned that a team has to have a center, go ahead.
    but don't act like if it was THE difference that proves that someone doesn't know what he talkes about, because he calls Ian what he in fact is. a PF. if you want to call him a center, because you called him center for quite some time, also go ahead. it doesn't change anything.
    but please stop trying to use this difference in this pseudo-scientific way, just to try to discredit someone else's oppinion.
    just better stop inventing this "insider" stories and watch some games.
    (or do you want to go into detail about your also ridiculous statement, why Sanikidze struggles in Spain?)

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    Another one is entering



    Wright declares for draft; no agent hired yetAssociated Press


    LAWRENCE, Kan. -- Julian Wright, the versatile but inconsistent power forward who helped Kansas win two straight Big 12 les, is skipping his last two years to enter the NBA draft.

    The 6-foot-8 Chicago player said at a news conference Monday that money wasn't the deciding issue.

    "Money has never been my motivation," he said. "It's not my family's [motivation]. Mostly, just playing and feeling like I'm able to advance my game to the next level. It's not about the money. I'm just happy and grateful to have the opportunity."

    Often inconsistent but at times spectacular with his long wing span, Wright averaged 12.7 points and 6.3 rebounds in helping the Jayhawks win their second straight Big 12 tournament le. In the regular season, he averaged 12 points and 8.1 rebounds.

    His best scoring game was a 33-point night at Missouri. But, showing his bad side one night at home, he went up for a spectacular, uncontested dunk but lost control of the ball and his body and landed in an embarrassed heap beneath the basket. Coach Bill Self was so disgusted, he pulled him out of the game.

    "Julian is a versatile, fabulous athlete who can do a lot of things very, very well," said Self, who joined his star player at the news conference.

    "He'd be the first to agree that there are some things he needs to get better at. But I don't know how many 19-year-olds or 20-year-olds don't have to get better at something. He'll work hard to do that.

    "But you can't teach a lot of things that Julian does very, very well. And you can't coach a lot of things he does very, very well. And I think that was intriguing for a lot of folks."

    Wright, who lacks a 3-point shot, said he expects to go somewhere between No. 10 and No. 16 in the first round.

    "I feel like I'm in a position now where I can develop," he said. "I'm not saying I'm going to be the next LeBron James or an impact player right away. I know it's a long work in process."

    By declaring for the draft, Wright becomes eligible to participate in the NBA Pre-Draft camp and try out for NBA teams. If he does not hire an agent, Wright can withdraw from the June 28 draft and return to school provided he does so by June 18.

    He becomes the first Jayhawk to declare for this year's draft, although 6-foot-6 sop re guard Brandon Rush is widely thought to be leaning toward turning pro. Kansas had no seniors last season and would otherwise return the entire lineup that reached the round of eight in the NCAA tournament.

    "I know it's going to be a lot of ups and downs, especially in the first year, or the second, or maybe the third," Wright said. "I'm ready for that. I'm not ready for actual playing right now. Obviously, I have a lot of work to do."

    Self, admitting Wright's loss will weaken his team, said he could not fault the decision.

    "Being very candid, if I was Julian and I was in this situation, I'm not sure I wouldn't make this same decision," he said.

    Self also said he did not expect a decision from Rush, his leading scorer, for 10 days to two weeks.

    "Not a happy day, not a sad day," Self said. "Just a day, I think if you coach at a place like Kansas you're going to have to deal with from time to time."

    Copyright 2007 by The Associated Press

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    Another one is entering



    Wright declares for draft; no agent hired yetAssociated Press


    LAWRENCE, Kan. -- Julian Wright, the versatile but inconsistent power forward who helped Kansas win two straight Big 12 les, is skipping his last two years to enter the NBA draft.

    The 6-foot-8 Chicago player said at a news conference Monday that money wasn't the deciding issue.

    "Money has never been my motivation," he said. "It's not my family's [motivation]. Mostly, just playing and feeling like I'm able to advance my game to the next level. It's not about the money. I'm just happy and grateful to have the opportunity."

    Often inconsistent but at times spectacular with his long wing span, Wright averaged 12.7 points and 6.3 rebounds in helping the Jayhawks win their second straight Big 12 tournament le. In the regular season, he averaged 12 points and 8.1 rebounds.

    His best scoring game was a 33-point night at Missouri. But, showing his bad side one night at home, he went up for a spectacular, uncontested dunk but lost control of the ball and his body and landed in an embarrassed heap beneath the basket. Coach Bill Self was so disgusted, he pulled him out of the game.

    "Julian is a versatile, fabulous athlete who can do a lot of things very, very well," said Self, who joined his star player at the news conference.

    "He'd be the first to agree that there are some things he needs to get better at. But I don't know how many 19-year-olds or 20-year-olds don't have to get better at something. He'll work hard to do that.

    "But you can't teach a lot of things that Julian does very, very well. And you can't coach a lot of things he does very, very well. And I think that was intriguing for a lot of folks."

    Wright, who lacks a 3-point shot, said he expects to go somewhere between No. 10 and No. 16 in the first round.

    "I feel like I'm in a position now where I can develop," he said. "I'm not saying I'm going to be the next LeBron James or an impact player right away. I know it's a long work in process."

    By declaring for the draft, Wright becomes eligible to participate in the NBA Pre-Draft camp and try out for NBA teams. If he does not hire an agent, Wright can withdraw from the June 28 draft and return to school provided he does so by June 18.

    He becomes the first Jayhawk to declare for this year's draft, although 6-foot-6 sop re guard Brandon Rush is widely thought to be leaning toward turning pro. Kansas had no seniors last season and would otherwise return the entire lineup that reached the round of eight in the NCAA tournament.

    "I know it's going to be a lot of ups and downs, especially in the first year, or the second, or maybe the third," Wright said. "I'm ready for that. I'm not ready for actual playing right now. Obviously, I have a lot of work to do."

    Self, admitting Wright's loss will weaken his team, said he could not fault the decision.

    "Being very candid, if I was Julian and I was in this situation, I'm not sure I wouldn't make this same decision," he said.

    Self also said he did not expect a decision from Rush, his leading scorer, for 10 days to two weeks.

    "Not a happy day, not a sad day," Self said. "Just a day, I think if you coach at a place like Kansas you're going to have to deal with from time to time."

    Copyright 2007 by The Associated Press
    You're wicked late on this one guy....stick to NFL updates. Just kidding

    I want to see if Rush and even Darrell Arthur muddy the waters even further by submitting their names...

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    You're wicked late on this one guy....stick to NFL updates. Just kidding

    I want to see if Rush and even Darrell Arthur muddy the waters even further by submitting their names...
    Damn, it was only posted on ESPN yesterday

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    Damn, it was only posted on ESPN yesterday
    Mardy, Mardy, Mardy....24 hours is an eternity for this forum. Did you happen to catch that Durant officially declared via statement and is schedule to hold a press conference in less than half an hour?

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    Mardy, Mardy, Mardy....24 hours is an eternity for this forum. Did you happen to catch that Durant officially declared via statement and is schedule to hold a press conference in less than half an hour?
    , who is this Durant you speak of?
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