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So when I ask you about all the cameras on the Pentagon grounds, you start talking about cameras outside the Pentagon. Why is that?
Maybe you can use photo shop to fool others with your Bush propaganda.
So when I ask you about all the cameras on the Pentagon grounds, you start talking about cameras outside the Pentagon. Why is that?
http://www.judicialwatch.org/flight77.shtml
Video 2 has an especially nice still frame of the front of a 757 at 00:25.
Last edited by Extra Stout; 04-24-2007 at 09:29 PM. Reason: wrong plane
Flight 77
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There is no evidence that the aircraft that hit the Pentagon was Flight 77.
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There Pentagon's security cameras offer evidence that a Global Hawk was shattered by a missile. The missile may have been launched automatically from a defense system around the Pentagon
The conspirators hijack four planes only to replace one with a UAV. One with a cloaking device that made eyetinesses see a jet airliner. It is then shot down by a missile lauched form the Pentagon but hits the Pentagon anyway.
The replaced 757 and the 64 people on board we placed inside and outside the building to make it look like a plane hit it.
Thanks for your trolling mouse. Your satire is a great service here.
Pay me $40 for my time.
I have watched so many other crappy 9-11 movies, and each and everytime it has come out to diddly- .
What kinds of critical questions have you asked yourself about what the movie claims?
The global hawk didn't enter service until Afghanistan when the FIRST prototypes were tested.
Flight 77
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There is no evidence that the aircraft that hit the Pentagon was Flight 77.
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There Pentagon's security cameras offer evidence that a Global Hawk was shattered by a missile. The missile may have been launched automatically from a defense system around the Pentagon
OOPS.
What about all the eye witnesses that saw a jetliner?
Ok I shall move on in search of Intelligent views............
So when was this happy fun picture taken?
Says who? If it was being tested it means it was already built. You think the air force is going to e mail RandomGuy every time they build a new aircraft?
Are you that naive to think It had to be a global hawk? It could have been a number of things, the bottom line it was not a passenger full of bodies with some sort of jet fuel with a super turbo hot top secret chemical's that disintegrate metal. humans, and black boxes. but leaves open books and computer monitors un scorched.
Oh now you are saying eye witnesses are creditable but when we used them we are talking about tin hat wearing fools? how does that work?What about all the eye witnesses that saw a jetliner?
Tell me again, why the I should watch your movie?
I will trade you.
Read the following and offer comment, and I will watch your movie.
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February 26, 1993. It started like most other days. A 4 A.M. wake up, coffee and a buttered roll while driving to work at the Manhattan Central Office. At 12:18 P.M., lunch was being served when we received a call via a street alarm box at the corner of West & Liberty Streets. At the same time Engine Company 10, whose quarters are across the street from the World Trade Center, called us via radio and reported a possible transformer vault explosion on West Street near the Trade Center.
Transformer vault (also called manhole) explosions are fairly common place in Manhattan, especially during wet weather. They're highly visible and normally generate numerous telephone calls to the Central Office. We didn't think this one was going to be any different. When Engine 10 advised us by radio they had a working fire in the Trade Center, we thought the transformer vault was located within the basement of the complex. Not a routine event, but still,it's only a transformer vault we thought.
http://www.fdnewyork.com/wtc.asp
"The Trade Center was never designed for the amount of emergency power necessary for all those trading floors they have there," Calabro said. "Tenants would come in and need emergency power, and it was not available."
To solve that problem, E-J Electric set four generators on the roof of Tower 5, which was nine stories, as opposed to the 110-story Towers 1 and 2. E-J then ran high-voltage feeder cable to Towers 1, 2, 4 and 5, installed three substations and distributed power to the tenants.
"We pulled 6,000 feet of high-voltage feeder cable from the roof of Tower 5, through the building, down through the concourse, through the parking garages and to the roof of Tower 1 and 2," Calabro said.
Current standard tenant power capacity is 6W up to 10W per usable square foot depending on location. The World Trade Center's electricity supply is segmented for greater reliability and safety. Eight dedicated 13,800-V feeders divide into 23 building substations. On-floor electrical distribution is routed via at least two electrical closets per floor, each with separate high- and low-voltage bus ducts for tenant-dedicated use."
http://september11.ceenews.com/ar/el...ty_2/index.htm
This is a deceptive quote from a conspiracy theory site...
"When we got to about 50 feet from the South Tower, we heard the most eerie sound that you would ever hear. A high-pitched noise and a popping noise made everyone stop. We all looked up. At the point, it all let go...
...There was an explosion and the whole top leaned toward us and started coming down. I stood there for a second in total awe, and then said, "What the F###?" I honestly thought it was Hollywood."
Now let's examine what he said in the context he said it. Here is the part conspiracy sites leave out..
“When we got to about 50 ft from the South Tower, we heard the most eerie sound that you would ever hear. A high-pitched noise and a popping noise made everyone stop. We all looked up. At the point, it all let go. The way I see it, it had to be the rivets. The building let go, there was an explosion and the whole top leaned toward us and started coming down.
http://september11.ceenews.com/ar/el...rical_supplys/
He said "The way I see it, it had to be the rivets" but the conspiracy sites remove this important insight. They skipped over the sentence. There is only one reason to do something like that. To mislead the reader by removing all other possibilities for the sounds.
He also says he thinks the rivets caused the building to fall and not bombs. Interestingly, the NIST said most of the failures were at the bolts and connections.
Even bodies hitting the floor sounded like explosions.
“The sight was amazing. I was just totally awestruck. I reported to the command post, showed my ID and asked if I could be of use. They said ‘Absolutely. Stand off on the side with the other medical people.’ I couldn’t fight any fires because I did not have that kind of gear with me, but would have done it if asked.
“I decided to walk closer to the South Tower. I was about 100 ft from the South Tower looking up when the bodies started coming down. I counted 35. They were just piling up on the Marriott Marquis hotel. They were 10 to 15 thick piling up one after another. You could hear them hitting on the side streets. They were hitting cars, and there were lots of explosions.
“I have seen plenty of death in my life, and burned bodies and so forth, but this was incredible. As I was looking up, I saw a body coming down, hit a lamppost and explode like a paint ball. Its arms and legs got torn off and the head ripped off and bounced right by me.”
The person saying it was an explosion also says bodies hitting the floor sound like explosions. I'm sure they do. I'm sure an acre of concrete floor crashing down onto another acre of concrete floor also sounds like an explosion.
I want to know who killed all of the people who were on the jetliner, including the Solicitor General's wife?
You'll have to excuse me if I'm a bit skeptical that the Solicitor General was cool with the notion that the government was going to execute his wife in an effort to stir up the American people and create a justification for war.
Try this intelligent view.
http://www.911myths.com/html/pentago...batteries.html
The Citgo and hotel footage aren't mising at all. In fact they have been available on the internets for several months.
Citgo
Doubletree
Turns out they weren't released earlier because they simply didn't show anything worthwhile, in addition to all those pesky legal issues.
Nice to know you are on the cutting edge of the truth movement -- so much that you were completely ignorant of the official release of these videos in September and December of last year.
Now that I've answered your question, could you let me know what you think really happened on 9/11?
I believe people when they say they hear explosions.
There are LOTs of things that sound like explosions. MOST of them aren't explosives.
I DON'T buy your CONCLUSIONS, because you obviously cast away anything that doesn't fit your theory.
What theory?
So when eyewitnesses are good enough for YOUR theory that's great, but aren't good enough to support the assertion that a jetliner actually hit the building?
How does THAT work?
They don't have a theory, per se.
They have a pile of "evidence" copied and pasted ad infinitum.
^randomguy thats weak
Somehow orchestrating the hijacking of multiple airliners to have them crash at explosive-rigged sites was more effective than just setting off the explosives by themselves in the first place
Even though our civilian airliner pilots had been trained to cooperate with hijackers and not try to physically resist, and even though short knives and box cutters were allowed in carry-on luggage, we shouldn't believe the absurd claim that four or five strong and very determined men armed with knives and a fanatic eagerness to die killing Americans could take over an unlocked pit.
The rigged explosives in the upper floors of WTC2 were powerful enough to collapse a skyscraper, but not powerful enough to instantly kill Kevin Cosgrove, on floor 105, who was talking on the phone with a fire dispatcher and managed to blurt out three words between the time of the "explosion" and the collapse that killed him.
Although the 1993 WTC bombing was obviously the work of terrorists, the idea that the 2001 attacks were perpetrated by terrorists is ludicrous.
The same nefarious conspirators that pulled off the single largest concerted suicide attack in history forgot to make a hole in the Pentagon to help fake the airliner impact site.
When some eyewitnesses at the WTC describe a really big noise as an "explosion," we should believe them, and not our own eyes that saw floors pancaking on each other, ejecting debris out the windows. And we should believe their assessment of the "explosions" because, you know, of their experience discriminating between the sounds of some of the tallest skyscrapers in the world collapsing and explosions 80 stories up.
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