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    I only watch about 5 minutes of each daily briefing and Trump melts down every single time

    he either loves these moments or he hates them

    I can't tell which
    I just remember him saying "I am proud to be your president... look to me and I will save you all" then walks out and gives the mic to Fauci

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    NY is not testing people anymore FYI nigas

    so all these projections you are talking about are moot

    there are simply not testing anymore

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    NY is not testing people anymore FYI nigas

    so all these projections you are talking about are moot

    there are simply not testing anymore
    Link?

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    NY is not testing people anymore FYI nigas

    so all these projections you are talking about are moot

    there are simply not testing anymore
    Exactly. Why test when they are just showing up in the ER every 10 minutes

    I think Wuhan called that clinical diagnosis

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    If this math holds, we can expect NY's death count to rise to about 80 per day (8000 x 1 percent morality rate) over that period. Not sure why expect New York's base mortality rate to rise much from 0.9 percent into the Italy territory of 10 percent, when we see that Italy has many factors that contribute to a higher mortality rate. Older population, lived in one of the most polluted areas in Europe, chronic smokers. Remember, they die from the flu at a 10x higher rate than Americans. Respiratory illnesses don't seem kind to their population.
    smh, NY/NJ yesterday was 130 yesterday. In what mathematical world is that going to decline?

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    NY is not testing people anymore FYI nigas

    so all these projections you are talking about are moot

    there are simply not testing anymore
    Nonsense.

    They're now only testing the very sick with obvious symptoms. It's the right thing to do.

    A lot of tests were used for people who were showing no symptoms at all and now they're strapped to get them.

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    and from hole Texas:

    How many coronavirus cases in Texas? Depends on who you ask

    On Tuesday evening, Texas launched a new system for reporting cases of COVID-19. Officials said the new system will bring the state's count closer to those of counties and other sources that were reporting hundreds more cases.




    the most generous accounting of positive cases in the state is a dramatic undercount given the rampant evidence of community spread,

    https://www.texastribune.org/2020/03...nt-everywhere/


    Those numbers are false. As I explained a while back in this thread, COVID has been making the rounds here in Texas since at least early Jan.

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    smh, NY/NJ yesterday was 130 yesterday. In what mathematical world is that going to decline?
    That's 80 per day for New York only, and not combined with New Jersey. The e was probably data lag. See here. https://covidtracking.com/data/state/new-york/

    New York reported no new deaths from Sunday to Monday. Perhaps everyone did hold on and all passed later, but instinct tells me New York added in the Sunday to Monday deaths yesterday when they sent in the data.

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    Why weren't you pushing for this last year?

    Oh that's right, impeachment was more important then. Which candidate ran with "increase medical supplies for potential virus testing" as one of their key goals? Because that wasn't the thing then. Medicare for all! (but no supplies).

    "why didn't more people have hindsight ahead of time!"
    your cult leader was extorting a foreign govt and cheating in an american election by inviting foreign govts to help him cheat


    you - again - blame the people investigating the criminal - per par


    lol


    Defending
    Muh
    Criminal

    cult moron

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    ^and I guess that's why it's better to look at weekly instead of daily trends because we don't know if a stat that's posted on the likes of Worldometers or whatever happened today, yesterday, last week, etc, etc.

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    Thirteen deaths in a day: An apocalyptic surge in coronavirus deaths at a NYC hospital.

    An emergency room doctor in Elmhurst, Queens, gives a rare look inside a hospital at the center of the coronavirus pandemic. “We don’t have the tools that we need.”

    Dave Sanders for The New York Times
    By Michael Rothfeld, Somini Sengupta, Joseph Goldstein and Brian M. Rosenthal
    March 25, 2020

    In several hours on Tuesday, Dr. Ashley Bray performed chest compressions at Elmhurst Hospital Center on a woman in her 80s, a man in his 60s and a 38-year-old who reminded the doctor of her fiancé. All had tested positive for the coronavirus and had gone into cardiac arrest. All eventually died.

    Elmhurst, a 545-bed public hospital in Queens, has begun transferring patients not suffering from coronavirus to other facilities as it moves toward becoming one dedicated entirely to the outbreak. Doctors and nurses have struggled to make do with a few dozen ventilators. Calls over a loudspeaker of “Team 700,” the code for when a patient is on the verge of death, come several times a shift. Some have died inside the emergency room while waiting for a bed.

    A refrigerated truck has been stationed outside to hold the bodies of the dead. Over the past 24 hours, New York City’s public hospital system said in a statement, 13 people at Elmhurst had died.

    “It’s apocalyptic,” said Dr. Bray, 27, a general medicine resident at the hospital.

    Across the city, which has become the epicenter of the coronavirus outbreak in the United States, hospitals are beginning to confront the kind of harrowing surge in cases that has overwhelmed health care systems in China, Italy and other countries. On Wednesday morning, New York City reported 16,788 confirmed cases and 199 deaths.

    More than 2,800 coronavirus patients have been hospitalized in the city. Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo on Wednesday offered a glimmer of hope that social-distancing measures were starting to slow the growth in hospitalizations. Still, hospitals are preparing for a major influx.

    This week, the state’s hospitalization estimations were down markedly, from a doubling of cases every two days to every four days. It is “almost too good to be true,” Mr. Cuomo said.

    Working with state and federal officials, hospitals have repeatedly expanded the portions of their facilities equipped to handle patients who had stayed home until worsening fevers and difficulty breathing forced them into emergency rooms.

    Dr. Mitc Katz, the head of the Health and Hospitals Corporation, which operates New York City’s public hospitals, said plans were underway to transform many areas of the Elmhurst hospital into intensive care units for extremely sick patients.

    But New York’s hospitals may be about to lose their leeway for creativity in finding spaces.

    All of the more than 1,800 intensive care units in the city are expected to be full by Friday, according to a Federal Emergency Management Agency briefing obtained by The New York Times. Patients could stay for weeks, limiting space for newly sickened people.

    Mr. Cuomo said on Wednesday that he had not seen the briefing. He said he hoped that officials could quickly add units by dipping into a growing supply of ventilators, the machines that some coronavirus patients need to breathe.

    The federal government is sending a 1,000-bed hospital ship to New York, although it is not scheduled to arrive until mid-April. Officials have begun erecting four 250-bed hospitals at the Jacob K. Javits Convention Center in Midtown Manhattan, which could be ready in a week. President Trump said on Wednesday on Twitter that construction was ahead of schedule, but that could not be independently confirmed.

    Officials have also discussed converting hotels and arenas into temporary medical facilities.

    At least two city hospitals have filled up their morgues, and city officials anticipated the rest would reach capacity by the end of this week, according to the briefing. The city requested 85 refrigerated trailers from FEMA for mortuary services, along with staff, the briefing said.

    A spokeswoman for the city’s office of the chief medical examiner said the briefing was inaccurate. “We have significant morgue capacity in our five citywide sites, and the ability to expand,” she said.

    In interviews, doctors and nurses at hospitals across the city gave accounts of how they were being stretched.
    Workers at several hospitals, including the Jacobi Medical Center in the Bronx, said employees such as obstetrician-gynecologists and radiologists have been called to work in emergency wards.

    At a branch of the Montefiore Medical Center, also in the Bronx, there have been one or two coronavirus-related deaths a day, or more, said Judy Sheridan-Gonzalez, a nurse. There are not always enough gurneys, so some patients sit in chairs. One patient on Sunday had been without a bed for 36 hours, she said.

    At the Mount Sinai Health System, some hospital workers in Manhattan have posted photos on social media showing nurses using trash bags as protective gear. A system spokesman said she was not aware of that happening.

    With ventilators in short supply, NewYork-Presbyterian Hospital, one of the city’s largest systems, has begun using one machine to help multiple patients at a time, a virtuall unheard-of move, a spokeswoman said.
    But officials have called Elmhurst among the hardest-hit hospitals in the city.

    “Elmhurst is at the center of this crisis, and it’s the number one priority of our public hospital system right now,” the city’s public hospital system’s statement said. “The front line staff are going above and beyond in this crisis, and we continue surging supplies and personnel to this critical facility to keep pace with the crisis.

    Elmhurst Hospital Center opened in 1832 and moved to its current Queens location in 1957, making it one of the oldest hospitals in New York City.

    In the neighborhood it serves, Elmhurst, more than two-thirds of residents were born outside of the United States, the highest such rate in the city. It is a safety-net hospital, serving mainly low-income patients, including many who lack primary care doctors.

    Queens accounts for 30 percent of New York City’s confirmed coronavirus cases, more than any other borough and far more than its share of the city’s population. It also has fewer hospitals. Elmhurst is one of three major facilities serving a large population and is centrally located, which in part explains why it is busy in normal times and even busier now.

    Medical workers said they saw the first signs of the virus in early March — an increase in patients coming in with flulike symptoms before the alarm had been fully raised in the city and the country. Tests results were taking longer then, but they eventually confirmed that many of these patients had coronavirus.

    In the weeks after, the emergency room began filling up, with more than 200 people at times. Every chair in the waiting room was usually taken. Patients came in faster than the hospital could add beds; earlier this week, 60 coronavirus patients had been admitted but were still in the emergency room. One man waited almost 60 hours for a bed last week, a doctor said.

    The patients coming in now are sicker than before because they were advised to try to recover at home, doctors said.

    Like other hospitals, Elmhurst has come perilously close to running out of ventilators several times; other facilities have replenished its supply.

    Despite the more optimistic projections by the state about hospitalization rates, the crowds outside of Elmhurst have not thinned out.

    The line of people waiting outside of Elmhurst to be tested for the coronavirus forms as early as 6 a.m., and some stay there until 5 p.m. Many are told to go home without being tested.

    Julio Jimenez, 35, spent six hours in the emergency room on Sunday night after running a fever while at work in a New Jersey warehouse. He returned on Monday morning to stand in the testing line in the pouring rain. On Tuesday, still coughing, eyes puffy, he stood in line for nearly seven hours and again went home untested.

    “I don’t know if I have the virus,” Mr. Jimenez said. “It’s so hard. It’s not just me. It’s for many people. It’s crazy.”

    Rikki Lane, a doctor who has worked at Elmhurst for more than 20 years, said the hospital had handled “the first wave of this tsunami.” She compared the scene in the emergency department with an overcrowded parking garage where physicians must move patients in and out of spots to access other patients blocked by stretchers.

    Family members are not permitted inside, she said.

    Dr. Lane recalled recently treating a man in his 30s whose breathing deteriorated quickly and had to be put on a ventilator. “He was in distress and panicked, I could see the terror in his eyes,” she said. “He was alone.”

    Other doctors said they had tried to resuscitate people while drenched in sweat under their protective gear, face masks fogging up. Some patients have been found dead in their rooms while doctors were busy helping others, they said.

    Sometimes doctors try to call patients’ families when it is clear they will not recover.

    That is what Dr. Bray said she tried to do before the man who reminded her of her fiancé died on Tuesday. As it turned out, his mother, also stricken with the coronavirus, was a patient at another hospital.

    “We weren’t able to get in touch with anybody,” Dr. Bray said.

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    Land mass larger than us with 1/10th the population probably helps. Not to mention they are annoyingly nice and respectful towards each other.
    I would've expected them to be in-line with other 1st world countries like France, Germany or Spain, but they seem to be outdoing them. Again, not privy to details like their reporting, but I have no reason to doubt the numbers.

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    I thought a Worldwide pandemia would convert atheists into christians, but it turns out that it converts free-marketers into Keynesians.
    Still an emergency, and bailout packages like the one passed last night has plenty of fine print to keep the status quo, tbh

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    I would've expected them to be in-line with other 1st world countries like France, Germany or Spain, but they seem to be outdoing them. Again, not privy to details like their reporting, but I have no reason to doubt the numbers.
    Population density. And I don't think the virus likes to transmit in extreme cold.

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    I thought a Worldwide pandemia would convert atheists into christians, but it turns out that it converts free-marketers into Keynesians.
    truth bombs

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    Because CDC botched their test. They had to eventually remove regulations to let the market handle it.
    The CDC simply did not make enough tests, nor ramped up anything until it was too late. Even now, public universities are a big supplier of tests.

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    NY is not testing people anymore FYI nigas

    so all these projections you are talking about are moot

    there are simply not testing anymore
    How are they not testing anymore but officially reporting 4,463 new cases today? And that's not even considering that all tests don't come back positive.

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    Population density. And I don't think the virus likes to transmit in extreme cold.
    They still have pretty big cities, tbh... extreme cold certainly a possibility

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    Those numbers are false. As I explained a while back in this thread, COVID has been making the rounds here in Texas since at least early Jan.
    You might find this interesting


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    Still an emergency, and bailout packages like the one passed last night has plenty of fine print to keep the status quo, tbh
    Some mighty republicans think the poor are getting a little too much money so they're threatening to kill it. I'll give you 1 guess per each republican pos who suddenly had a change of heart.

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    You might find this interesting

    It's what we need, an antibody test.

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    Here's an article some of you might find interesting.

    https://english.alarabiya.net/en/fea...ow-no-symptoms

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    How are they not testing anymore but officially reporting 4,463 new cases today? And that's not even considering that all tests don't come back positive.
    ask CNN

    a NYC medic said that and said even medics who believe they are infected cannot get tests

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