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    Sarah Palin made a good first impression.

    A new Rasmussen Reports poll finds 53% now have a favorable opinion of Palin:

    Palin earns positive reviews from 78% of Republicans, 26% of Democrats and 63% of unaffiliated voters.

    By way of comparison, on the day he was selected as Barack Obama’s running mate, Delaware Senator Joseph Biden was viewed favorably by 43% of voters.

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...bly_than_biden

    something is wrong with MSM...

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    Favorability ratings are different in this poll than 'electability' numbers. People like her, but 'right choice'/'more likely to vote McCain' and most especially 'is she ready to be prez' numbers were much lower.

    What's most important is Women surveyed, where Palin is -23 points in 'is she ready to be president'. Men like the Palin pick more than Women so far. We'll see once she makes her case; Biden's numbers went up during the convention.

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    Sarah Palin made a good first impression.

    A new Rasmussen Reports poll finds 53% now have a favorable opinion of Palin:

    Palin earns positive reviews from 78% of Republicans, 26% of Democrats and 63% of unaffiliated voters.

    By way of comparison, on the day he was selected as Barack Obama’s running mate, Delaware Senator Joseph Biden was viewed favorably by 43% of voters.

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...bly_than_biden

    something is wrong with MSM...
    67% of voters didn’t know enough about the Alaska governor to have an opinion

    Something is wrong with your repeatedly missing that.

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    Leave it to Mild Cobra to on someone's military service.

    Why do you hate our servicemen?
    I didn't on his service. Being a lawyer in JAG,. Knowing you have that position when you join, isn't the same as volenteering as an infantryman. There is no comparison to the level of risk you can face.

    I questioned a point, and I did say "my hat's off to him!" It's good to see he joined in 2004. It would have been nice if Mr. Peabody linked the aticle:



    Here's the last few paragraphs:

    "It's a different kind of law than most people practice. You get an opportunity to help a lot of kids," Gebelein said.

    There is no predicting whether Biden himself would be sent to a war zone. It could happen but probably will not. "The odds are much better now than it used to be. I'm not saying it's real likely," Gebelein said.

    The truth of the matter is, as Dallas Winslow put it, there is not much use for a lawyer where the shots are being fired. "There's no great demand for attorneys. They'd rather not take the attorneys with them," he quipped.

    Whatever happens, it happens. "If I go, I go. You know when you sign up," Biden said.

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    You were comparing terms of service to score cheap political points.

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    as stated before..

    So I guess VP's don't have staffs and advisor's on everything from national security to domestic issues... besides she is not at the top of the ticket, and people are acting like Mccain is going to croak or something within his presidency.. the experience argument is a mute point as far as I am concerned... you see Presidents and VP's have staffs and advisor's no matter the party affiliation.. And I rather have a VP doing on the job training rather than the president... IMHO
    The National Review, the most widely read conservative/Republican magazine disagrees with you.

    Link

    4) Okay, maybe she is less prepared than I'd ideally prefer. But how are Obama's qualifications any better?

    Let me start with point 4.

    I (and most NRO readers) will vote against Barack Obama because I oppose his ideas. He is (at best) an old-line Walter Mondale taxer, spender, and regulator possibly still under the influence (at worst) of the radical alienation from America preached in his church and expressed in his own early writings. I'd vote against a candidate like this even if he had previously served as CEO of Google, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and Governor of California, with a Nobel prize on top of it all.

    That said: Can we conservatives please stop kidding ourselves about Barack Obama's "qualifications"? Yes, if I had been a Democratic donor back in 2006, I'd sure worry about whether Barack Obama had what it took to be president. That was before he took on the toughest political operation in America, before he beat Bill and Hillary Clinton, before he won 18 million primary votes.

    Obama's nomination was not handed to him. He fought hard for it and won against the odds. "Qualifications" predict achievement. Once you have achieved, it doesn't matter what your qualifications are. Who cares whether the guy who built a big company from nothing didn't have much of a resume when he started? But if you are applying to run a big company built by somebody else, the resume matters ...

    The worst mistake in any fight is to under-estimate your opponent's abilities. Look what happened to the people who under-estimated Reagan. If conservatives are to have any hope in the coming weeks, we should wake up to the fact that we face in Barack Obama a formidable man, who appeals to something important and deep in the American electorate. He's not a superman, he has vulnerabilities, he can be beaten. But he won't be beaten until we who are trying to beat him understand why and how he has come so far ...

    . . . .
    Likewise, had Sarah Palin decided in 2005 to run for president in 2008 - had she spent 3 years mastering the issues and explaining her views in public statements - had she one by one recruited leading experts on economic and defense issues to her cause and privately explored the issues of the day with them - then her current background would not be disqualifying. Indeed it would resemble that of many successful presidents.

    None of those things happened. She was plucked by John McCain because of an electoral calculus. She could be vice president of the United States in January 2009 - and president at any moment thereafter, abruptly thrust in supreme command of two wars in two different countries. And who knows how she'll do? She does not know what she would do. Yes she might turn out to be a Harry Truman. Or she might be an Andrew Johnson. Wouldn't you wish for some hint in advance of which it might be?
    ....

    But does her selection look more like a"an intensely political choice" than a "governing choice"? It sure does. And could that exact a cost? I fear it will, and I fear that cost may be very large.

    McCain's case in this election rests above all on the claim that he's something more than a typical Republican and a typical politician. He's the man who puts country first - not party, not his own career. He is the man who is summoning Americans to something greater than their self-interest. And if that's the guy he is ... he has to be that guy all the time.
    Last edited by Mr. Peabody; 08-30-2008 at 09:10 PM.

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    I didn't on his service. Being a lawyer in JAG,. Knowing you have that position when you join, isn't the same as volenteering as an infantryman. There is no comparison to the level of risk you can face.
    So when he says "If I go, I go, You know when you sign up," that still means that he joined because he didn't think he would have to go? Is that what you're saying? His dad is the Chairman of Senate Foreign Relations Committee. You don't think his dad would have told him that there was a decent chance of him going?

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    You were comparing terms of service to score cheap political points.
    I keep forgetting how a lib 's mind works. Thank-You for reminding me!

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    Likewise, had Sarah Palin decided in 2005 to run for president in 2008 - had she spent 3 years mastering the issues and explaining her views in public statements - had she one by one recruited leading experts on economic and defense issues to her cause and privately explored the issues of the day with them - then her current background would not be disqualifying. Indeed it would resemble that of many successful presidents.
    But she got to sign and veto bills! That's the only really important executive experience that counts!

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    I keep forgetting how a lib 's mind works. Thank-You for reminding me!
    I respect everyone who serves for this country, no matter what party they belong to.

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    I respect everyone who serves for this country, no matter what party they belong to.
    Does this mean that if soldiers voiced opinions you disagreed with, and then they were killed in combat shortly thereafter, you wouldn't infer that their deaths were the result of karma?

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    The National Review, the most widely read conservative/Republican magazine disagrees with you.
    This may be true, I don't know. I don't subscribe to it.

    However, such a magazine likely prints several differing views among conservative. Not all conservatives agree. It makes for good mind candy and learning.

    Thatnks for the link. The full link makes more sense than your clips and highlights.

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    Does this mean that if soldiers voiced opinions you disagreed with, and then they were killed in combat shortly thereafter, you wouldn't infer that their deaths were the result of karma?
    Of course not. What crazy person does that?

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    I want to insert my fist into her slippy.

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    Of course not. What crazy person does that?
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...ghlight=Kharma

    fwiw, I don't think Wild Cobra is "crazy", I just think he needs to break out of his right wing radio cocoon a live a little.

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    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...ghlight=Kharma

    fwiw, I don't think Wild Cobra is "crazy", I just think he needs to break out of his right wing radio cocoon a live a little.
    Crazy or not, he looks like a giant asshole.

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    Crazy or not, he looks like a giant asshole.
    No.

    I just cannot stand stupidity and incompetance.

    I'll give you this. I am an ass to those who deserve it.

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    fwiw, I don't think Wild Cobra is "crazy", I just think he needs to break out of his right wing radio cocoon a live a little.
    It could be said that living in one of the most liberal cities in the USA can drive one crazy.

    I see idiotic stuff daily here from lib s here in the Capitol of the North Left Coast! If I didn't vent here from time to time, I would go crazy!

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    I didn't on his service. Being a lawyer in JAG,. Knowing you have that position when you join, isn't the same as volenteering as an infantryman. There is no comparison to the level of risk you can face.

    I questioned a point, and I did say "my hat's off to him!" It's good to see he joined in 2004. It would have been nice if Mr. Peabody linked the aticle:



    Here's the last few paragraphs:
    It was nice of you to on him for not joining after 9/11 and being completely wrong about it.

    I forgot how your stupid mind works.

    Quit hating our servicemen. It's disgusting.

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    It was nice of you to on him for not joining after 9/11 and being completely wrong about it.

    I forgot how your stupid mind works.

    Quit hating our servicemen. It's disgusting.
    So, by your logic, when I rate someone as good, and abother person as better, I'm shiiting on the good one?

    OK, I understand. Thanks for teaching me more lib logic.

    What would you have said if I really did say something bad about Beau?

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    For those of you who say she came from nowhere, that's not true at all. Look at revisions of her wiki entry last year, and you will see otherwise. Here is one of the older links to be found, February 2007:

    Draft Sarah Palin for Vice President

    The others I tried are bad links now and I'm out of time. Gotta go.

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    It was nice of you to on him for not joining after 9/11 and being completely wrong about it.

    I forgot how your stupid mind works.

    Quit hating our servicemen. It's disgusting.
    Many service men and women died on 9/11 that you on every day you when you defend Bush and don't seek the truth.

    pot meet kettle.

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    Deadspin found a clip of Palin from her sportscasting days...



    http://deadspin.com/5043889/sweet-li...-video-is-here

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    67% of voters didn’t know enough about the Alaska governor to have an opinion

    Something is wrong with your repeatedly missing that.
    They have two months of saturated media coverage to get to know her and form their opinion on someone who is on the bottom of the ticket.

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