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    When we hear witnesses describing "something like a bomb going off" in the Pentagon, we should ignore subsequent (and concurrent) eyewitness reports of a rather large passenger jet flying into exactly the same spot, and ignored reports and photos of engines, landing gear, other aircraft parts, aircraft passengers, and other debris being found on and in the site, and absolutely no evidence of any explosive.

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    Any videos of the crashes that surface more than a day or two after the event are obviously computer-generated fakes, because the time it took to create the fake videos explains why they weren't immediately released. Because everyone knows that if someone takes home video of a disaster, they run straight to a media outlet to share it with the rest of the world.

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    The same government conspirators who plotted this complex event didn't prepare fake videos ahead of time. They waited until the events happened to prepare the computer-generated fakery, which delayed their release until a cloud of su ion could fall on their authenticity.

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    No buildings in history ever fell because of fire until 9-11. And if the WTC towers were the first modern, steel structures to collapse by fire, it is not a testament to the intelligent engineering put into the design of skyscrapers in general, but only evidence that the WTC was brought down by other means. No, I don't mean by airplanes filled with thousands of pounds of fuel ramming into them, I mean by a bomb. Yes!

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    Steel supports must liquify at their melting point of 3000°F in order to weaken and fail, and everything that metalurgists and engineers have told us about heat of only about 700°Fweakening steel is false, and for thousands of years, metal workers like blacksmiths and armorers have just had it all wrong, because they only needed large blast furnaces, spigots, and molds to form horseshoes, swords, and plowshares from liquid metal, and they didn't need a hammer and anvil, as you see in Hollywood movies' special effects.

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    If a large plane crashes into a large skyscraper and starts a raging fire inside, then a woman later waves from the outside edge of a lower part of the huge jagged entry hole, then that's proof that the fire inside isn't actually all that hot.

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    If there is disagreement on the approach angle and bank of the plane hitting the Pentagon in an official report and from online bloggers, then we can safely assume that the plane, in fact, did not exist.

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    It doesn't make sense that remains of the hijackers and passengers, who hit the sides of mostly open-spaced office buildings at hundreds of miles an hour and ejected out the other side, were some of the first remains discovered, and not under thousands of tons of rubble straight down. The body parts must have been planted on streets, on the roofs of buildings, and through broken windows by burglars. Or something.

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    Disagreement between government reports and eyewitness accounts do not mean that the individuals witnessed the same event; they only mean that the accounts that don't agree with my paranoid point of view are lies as part of the government cover-up, are mass hallucinations, or, just to be thorough, both.

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    Since verbose, difficult-to-read scientific reports contradict my claims of conspiracy, I'll use a different approach: Nothing says "Science" like lots of photos, drawings, and short captions in a PowerPoint or Flash animation backed by spooky "conspiracy music."

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    The WTC towers fell straight down (more or less), which proves that it was a controlled demolition. If it were a true building falling down, it would have fallen over like a popsicle stick.

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    Although video clearly shows smoke and debris being blown out the pancaking WTC upper floors as the floors collapse against each other, but video of planned, controlled building demolitions clearly shows bright flashes of explosions before the building begins collapsing, the explosives planted in the towers must be some new super-secret kind because the explosive effect obviously goes back in time and starts the collapse of the building before the explosions throw stuff out the windows. So now there's the whole "Government Stuff Can Travel Through Time" consipiracy, and don't get me started.

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    When an eyewitness describes a loud sound or strong, sudden vibration as "like a bomb," it means unequivocally that it was a bomb, because, you know, people have so much experience identifying bomb noises versus nearby passenger jet crashes.

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    99.9% of the world's top engineers, architects, physicists, and chemists are all wrong, and I am right, because I read the Intarweb and I am so smart.

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    If I repeat the same absurd claims enough times, they will become truth: There are over 6.5 billion people in the world, and about 1.1 billion of those people use the Internet. Chances are, I could claim anything on the Web, and at a million-to-one odds, over a thousand people would believe me. In the age of the Internet, that makes me an expert


    (the hydrostatic paradox of controversy--RG)

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    Any information that comes from the government is suspect, because everybody knows that "the government" is one vast conspiracy utterly controlled by a small number of evil-doers, not made up of millions of honest, hard-working people, at all levels of bureaucracy, of all ages, of all parties, of all walks of life, each fighting in their own way for truth, justice, and the American way.

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    The jets that crashed were not piloted by hijackers, but by "advanced robotics and remote-control technology." So the video footage of "men of middle-eastern descent" boarding each of the aircraft was falsified, the pit voice recordings were falsified, the ground service crew, mechanics, and flight crew of the four aircraft didn't notice any of the advancedroboticsandremotecontroltechnology while prepping the aircraft, body parts of known terrorists were planted at the crash sites, the live phone conversations between crew, passengers, and their loved ones on the ground were implanted memories and falsified recordings, and the Flight 93 passengers actually wrestled with some hidden robotic equipment, not terrorists.

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    "The 9/11 hijacking attacks were very likely facilitated by a rogue group within the US government that created an Islamic terrorist 'Pearl Harbor' event as a catalyst for the military invasion of Middle Eastern countries." You know, because that strategy has worked so well in the past. And no it is not shameful to mention "conspiracy" and "Pearl Harbor" in the same breath.

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    The government has a track record of blowing up its own buildings to push its own nefarious agenda, like they did in the Oklahoma City bombing and the 1993 WTC attack, because, you know, those attacks enabled the government to, you know,... do stuff, and stuff. So you can see this isn't a new idea for them.

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    Confusion of timelines and action reports at the time of the largest modern enemy attack on the United States were intentionally deceptive, and not the result of actual confusion, inconsistent memories, or finger pointing that usually accompany failures of intelligence.

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    Ok that was about eneough.

    The list is much much longer.

    http://www.sawyerhome.net/whatilearned.html

    and comes with tons of groovy links.

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    Mouse, with no disrespect whatsoever - cause I do consider you to be a free thinker - remind us where you obtained your physics degree?

    Again, no disrespect... I just want you to realize that you can't go around calling someone out on physics concepts when the argument really goes both ways. Few people in here have a complete handle on the subject. But one thing is for sure; the conspiracist claims play on the logical reasoning of physics from the mindset of a 90% of the populace but this basis doesn't necessarily make them true. Most people can be swayed by sugar coating concepts to suit the needs of their limited understanding. To them the arguments make sense. In fact some of the arguments such as nbadan's assertion that explosions are required to propel dust and debris away from the core of the collapsing structure illustrate the limited understanding being propagated by some of these conpiracist websites. In light of real physics, however, none of the conspiracists' claims hold much credence.

    Some, including myself, can see the events of 9/11 for what they were - terrorist attacks. Are there questions that remain unanswered? Sure.... because the dynamic data required to answer them went down with the buildings themselves. Because the window of opportunity to get the data closed before we knew what we were looking for and because the some parts of ground zero were inaccessible for weeks. That doesn't mean that I can speculate on the missing data and try to fill the holes with other distracting agendas. Did other buildings have to fall before I could believe that these would? Not necessarily. Not once before had a fully loaded passenger plane hit a building square on. There was no precedent for such event.

    Am I supposed to believe that 'out of context' pictures prove much of anything?... No.

    Am I supposed to believe that conspiracists really understand what 'free-fall' speed really means when they constantly fail to identify it.... much less understand it?

    When they refuse to acknowledge that diesel generators, water storage tanks, and vehicle-fuel tanks were the possible culprits for subsequent explosions - choosing instead to believe more exotic explosives were being used - it beckons the question on whether or not they are fabricating the story that suits their needs. Do they construct what they want to see and ignore the rest?

    When their arguments are filled with this many holes, how can I even take them seriously....

    The biggest conundrum in the conspiracist's logical framework is that we are to believe that so many things were orchestrated under the noses of thousands of people and that no one noticed... furthermore, that the perpetrators have somehow managed to remain completely silent on the matter. The lack of leaks on a conspiracy of this magnitude, after six years no less, indicates that there is no conspiracy. Am I to believe that one of the nation's most notoriously lackluster presidents orchestrated a maniacal scheme to perfection. We're talking about Bush here.... Even the Roswell incident is 10 times more believable than this conspiracy.
    This person is well educated.

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    yeah hes got like 4 degrees, everyone knows that

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    yeah hes got like 4 degrees, everyone knows that

    If only he could use one of them to see the truth.



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    not me

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