Charania: Spurs Have Exploratory Interest In Murray

[Mr. Body]

It's not clear what kind of big works best alongside Wembanyama. You'd think a guy who can shoot and drag his defender out would work, but it hasn't yet. Capela can't become an outside threat, so he may jam things up even more. Andre Drummond and others just kill us. This is why I'm interested in wings and guards who can rebound. (Dejounte was excellent here, up to 8.3 boards a game in his last year, although it dropped in Atlanta, probably since they had better front line players.)

OKC has the same problem. They get killed by the Lakers, for example, because Anthony Davis just destroys them.

[JeffDuncan]

Capela's rebounding would be welcome on this team, but due $22MM next year, ouch. That would be close to $40MM tied up in Collins and Capela.

Right, it would be preposterous to devote that much salary to a backup center. Andre Drummond is getting $3.4M this season, for pete’s sake. A backup center should not be a major expense, with how the NBA is now.

[Seventyniner]

The only reason I can think of for the Spurs to trade for Capela is as part of a package for Dejounte or Trae. The idea would be that Atlanta is trying to dump salary and Capela's deal for next year is something they don't want on the books. Capela on his own is a somewhat negative asset.

[baseline bum]

Unless Atlanta wants to give the Spurs an unprotected swap in 28 no thanks on Capella.

[Mitch Cumsteen]

It's not clear what kind of big works best alongside Wembanyama. You'd think a guy who can shoot and drag his defender out would work, but it hasn't yet. Capela can't become an outside threat, so he may jam things up even more. Andre Drummond and others just kill us. This is why I'm interested in wings and guards who can rebound. (Dejounte was excellent here, up to 8.3 boards a game in his last year, although it dropped in Atlanta, probably since they had better front line players.)

OKC has the same problem. They get killed by the Lakers, for example, because Anthony Davis just destroys them.

Agree with all of this, but I think much of Andre Drummond and others of his ilk killing the Spurs recently is due to Wemby's minutes restriction. He's held his own lately against some of the bigger and stronger players in the league.

[spurraider21]

drummond doesnt score like he used to but he's still good at big man things

his rebound % is legendary

[scott]

Have always thought Bassey could develop a nice Drummond-like role for himself if he could stay healthy and have a good on the squad (actually having Drummond would be my preference).

[RC_Drunkford]

the main reason why Capela would be included is for the Spurs to drive the price down. The Hawks want 2 firsts for Murray, if the Spurs take on Capela for expirings they can probably give them 1 first plus the CHA first or a bunch of 2nd rounders. That trade would save the Hawks about 45 million in cap room next season, I assume the price for that number ain't cheap.

The Spurs would then have a logjam at Center, but could look to flip Capela next season or try to trade Zach.

[spurraider21]

the main reason why Capela would be included is for the Spurs to drive the price down. The Hawks want 2 firsts for Murray, if the Spurs take on Capela for expirings they can probably give them 1 first plus the CHA first or a bunch of 2nd rounders. That trade would save the Hawks about 45 million in cap room next season, I assume the price for that number ain't cheap.

The Spurs would then have a logjam at Center, but could look to flip Capela next season or try to trade Zach.

wouldnt be the worst thing to hold capela for 1 year in what looks like a dreadful FA class anyway, especially if it drives the price down, but yeah, the roster logjam would be ugly, especially with wemby clearly being much better as the only big on the floor. would be a versatile rotation to be sure, but pretty expensive and if we wanted to keep 1 developmental big like barlow, means we'd have 4 centers on the roster, which seems tough to swallow

[ambchang]

If DJ only costs you 2 picks and expiring contracts you do the deal. Send them 2 of Osman/McDermott/Graham and then see which picks they would want, you can even add a 2nd rounder since we got about 80. You try your best to not send them any ATL picks back tho and if so you give them the 27 one.

Now if you can get Trae Young and there's quite a chance you could, since the Flagg and Boozer drafts are coming up and the Hawks don't have their picks, you go for it. There aren't a lot of young All-Star PGs available. The only other 3 that could become available are Doncic, LaMelo and Garland and who knows if or when that will ever happen. Not only is Young one of the best lob passers in the league, he also got Steph Curry range and can pull up from the logo. That kind of gravity would give Wemby so much more space to operate and the pick & roll would basically be unstoppable. Also there is no better big man to hide Young's defense than Victor. And don't give me the bull about "Young needs the ball in his hands". Who else on this team would you want to handle the ball besides Wemby?

Acting like Young wouldn't instantly give you a 6-year window of contending is borderline re ed.

You think someone thinking Trae young will not turn a team trending for 15 wins into a contender is re ed?

[RC_Drunkford]

wouldnt be the worst thing to hold capela for 1 year in what looks like a dreadful FA class anyway, especially if it drives the price down, but yeah, the roster logjam would be ugly, especially with wemby clearly being much better as the only big on the floor. would be a versatile rotation to be sure, but pretty expensive and if we wanted to keep 1 developmental big like barlow, means we'd have 4 centers on the roster, which seems tough to swallow

It's pretty smart. The FA class is terrible, there's maybe one veteran SF we could go for and that's it. So utilizing cap space to save draft assets while bringing DJ back would be great. And you could still flip Capela's expiring next season for more draft assets or another rotation player.

You think someone thinking Trae young will not turn a team trending for 15 wins into a contender is re ed?

I think not wanting to trade for Trae Young while he almost outscored our entire team in the first half is borderline re ed.

[spurraider21]

It's pretty smart. The FA class is terrible, there's maybe one veteran SF we could go for and that's it. So utilizing cap space to save draft assets while bringing DJ back would be great. And you could still flip Capela's expiring next season for more draft assets or another rotation player.

definitely the latter, if anything. the last thing the spurs should be doing next year is acquiring bad contracts. the only way we flip capela's expiring deal for draft assets next year is if we agree to take on some contract that goes for another year or two beyond capela's, and i dont want to be renting out cap space in 2025 or 2026. not even looking at those free agency classes, but just as far as the direction the club is taking, we need to be building up by that point, not continuing to tear down to sneak in picks here or there while holding onto ~20 mil of salary for a player we dont want

I think not wanting to trade for Trae Young while he almost outscored our entire team in the first half is borderline re ed.

most of ST has a hate boner for Trae. its one thing to acknowledge he is flawed and can be a challenge to build around, but having Wemby is a great ing start

i just dont think the cost is worth it when we currently have like 6 genuine NBA caliber players on the roster and would be sending at least 1-2 of them back in a deal to acquire Trae

[Dejounte]

Someone Argued Trae Was Only A Floor Raiser And Not A Ceiling Raiser. Isn’t It On Wemby To Be The Ceiling Raiser And Wouldn’t It Make It Easy For Him If He Had A Second Star That Carried The Team To The Playoffs So He Wouldn’t Be Fatigued Doing All The Heavy Lifting In Both The Regular Season And In The Playoffs?

This Applies To Murray Too And All Those Who Said Murray Only Carried This Team To The Play-In. Well, . I Think This Team Needs That Kind Of Guy So Wemby Can Blow Up In The Playoffs.

If Wemby Is Destined To Be Great, The Standards On Who Our Second And Third Best Players Should Be Don’t Need To Be Sky High.

[CGD]

^ bro, could you fix your caps situation? I usually like your takes, but whatever sentencing format you have on now makes it super hard to read you.

[Dverde]

11014600[/URL]]^ bro, could you fix your caps situation? I usually like your takes, but whatever sentencing format you have on now makes it super hard to read you.

It’s the Dejounte Murray font

[Dejounte]

^ bro, could you fix your caps situation? I usually like your takes, but whatever sentencing format you have on now makes it super hard to read you.

Sorry Brotha, When Murray Gets Traded Here I Will Stop. Promise.

[PhantomDashCam]

I saw it floated today RE: Orlando's interest in DJ.
That'd actually be an interesting scenario for both teams.
Something like...

ATL: Markelle Fultz + Jonathon Isaac + 2024 FRP (Lottery Protected) + 2025 FRP ( From Denver)
MAGIC: Dejounte Murray + 2025 SRP

[baseline bum]

wouldnt be the worst thing to hold capela for 1 year in what looks like a dreadful FA class anyway, especially if it drives the price down, but yeah, the roster logjam would be ugly, especially with wemby clearly being much better as the only big on the floor. would be a versatile rotation to be sure, but pretty expensive and if we wanted to keep 1 developmental big like barlow, means we'd have 4 centers on the roster, which seems tough to swallow

It's ok, the minutes restriction will clear that logjam right up.

[CGD]

Sorry Brotha, When Murray Gets Traded Here I Will Stop. Promise.

Ah, got it now

[Dejounte]

Per Woj, Heat Heavily Pursuing Murray And Atl Only Seeking ONE First Round Pick In Trade Package

[Dejounte]

[CGD]

Damn, one pick?

[Dejounte]

Contradicts This Report About The Heat

But I Hope The One-FRP Requirement Is True

[spurraider21]

already saw that heat are trying to dump Lowry as well. if they give ATL a desirable pick, they can also take capela off ATL's hands if thats what they want

they'd need a bit more filler, but it would be Lowry + spare parts + draft capital for DeJounte/Capela. with that said, looking at it closely, im not sure Miami really has the spare parts with enough salary to make it work that way.

so then it would just be Lowry + pick(s) for DeJounte + Patty or somethin

[scott]

Easy offer to beat: CHI pick + their choice of TOR '24 or SA '27