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    Oregon State forward Marcel Jones will enter the draft but wont hire an agent

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    It looks like Oden, Conley, and Cook are all in.

    Cook gets this:

    Maybe he won't hire and agent and see he might not even get drafted at all. The other two affect the Spurs not at all, except pushing that mass of other players closer to the #28 pick, as expected. Also, as an Indiana Hoosiers fan and alumn, it's good to see the obstruction removed.
    Do you have a source that shows any indication? I just did a google search and couldn't come up with anything difinitive.

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    Do you have a source that shows any indication? I just did a google search and couldn't come up with anything difinitive.
    Pukey little Dayton Daily News is registration required, but you can see it on the Sports page. It was linked elsewhere on sports sites:

    article

    Text of article thru DX:

    The crowd chanted "One more year" Wednesday night for Greg Oden and fellow Ohio State basketball freshmen Mike Conley Jr. and Daequan Cook.

    It's more likely those Buckeyes were "one and done" in college.

    Sources say all three likely will make themselves eligible for the NBA draft. Albert Powell's opinion is a "90 to 95 percent" chance the trio will ultimately decide to enter the draft.

    Cook said that he is leaning toward staying in school, but he says he doesn't have all the information he wants yet.

    Powell was an assistant on that group's AAU team (coached by Mike Conley Sr.), a member of Dunbar's coaching staff and close friend to all three families.

    "If it's one," Powell said. "It's all of them."

    Ohio State held a celebration complete with the band, the mayor, cheerleaders, a highlight video and 4,000 fans at the Schottenstein Center. Ohio State (35-4) was the Big Ten regular-season and tourney champions and NCAA runner-up to Florida.

    It also may have been a farewell for three freshmen and AAU teammates who have had NBA dreams since grade school. Players can withdraw from the draft until June 18.

    The players' families — including Conley Sr., now an NBA agent — plan to meet Sunday in Indianapolis. Ohio State coach Thad Matta hopes to talk with the players next week, armed with NBA information.

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    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...mit/index.html


    Article about Batum and a couple other foriegn prospects

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    My amended quickie SF list

    Kevin Durant
    Julian Wright
    Corey Brewer
    Nicholas Batum
    Jeff Green
    Al Thornton
    Thaddeus Young
    Jared Dudley
    Dominic McGuire
    Derrick Byars
    Wilson Chandler
    etc.

    Again I leave out Nick Young, Marcus Williams, Brandon Rush... due to my thinking of them as primarily SGs. And again, I'd absolutely love to have Brandon Rush.
    At one time, Mohammed Abukar, a 6'10' SF from Fresno State was slotted by DX to the Spurs. He went to Portmouth and seems to have lost some luster. Like a lot of these guys, they look terrific in college when they are playing aginst teams that may have at best, one or two premier college-level players--but when they get to a situation where ALL the players were college stars, they don't stand out so much.

    I'm still seeing a lot of LONG guys listed as PF/Cs who simply don't have the weight/body structure to play those positions. They are going to have to adjust down to SF in the pros if they are going to make it. And some of them have the hops to be able to do it.

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    My amended quickie SF list

    Kevin Durant
    Julian Wright
    Corey Brewer
    Nicholas Batum
    Jeff Green
    Al Thornton
    Thaddeus Young
    Jared Dudley
    Dominic McGuire
    Derrick Byars
    Wilson Chandler
    etc.

    Again I leave out Nick Young, Marcus Williams, Brandon Rush... due to my thinking of them as primarily SGs. And again, I'd absolutely love to have Brandon Rush.
    I'm big on Rush too, I love his defensive play. Hard to believe how deep this draft is that a guy like this could go in the second round.

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    I think it's safe to say that the Rush DNA peaks around college years.

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    Rush is a good collegiate defender, but I don't think he's quick enough to be a defensive force against NBA wings.

    Plus, he's a jayhawk...

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    Well he still has two years left to develope then right?

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    What's with the Julian Wright love?

    His range ends at about 8 feet, he's got no handle, he's not strong enough to guard the post. He is a solid passer and can block shots.

    He's a freak of an athlete, but I see him as having very little value at the '3.' He's a thin '4' without much of a post-up game.

    Not to mention that he completely disappeared at times for KU this past season (including their last game).

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    Rush is a good collegiate defender, but I don't think he's quick enough to be a defensive force against NBA wings.

    Plus, he's a jayhawk...
    He did a nice job on Durant, anyone that can do that has at least a chance of being a good NBA defender.

    And I completly agree with you about Julian Wright, overrated.

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    My amended quickie SF list

    Kevin Durant
    Julian Wright
    Corey Brewer
    Nicholas Batum
    Jeff Green
    Al Thornton
    Thaddeus Young
    Jared Dudley
    Dominic McGuire
    Derrick Byars
    Wilson Chandler
    etc.

    Again I leave out Nick Young, Marcus Williams, Brandon Rush... due to my thinking of them as primarily SGs. And again, I'd absolutely love to have Brandon Rush.

    just came across a similar list on the DX board, I think it is quite interesting, some of the guys there do a lot of thinking and even if I wouldn't agree on some points, it's a great work this guy did.
    I post it, because it covers exactly the most important question for the Spurs in this draft.
    (usually I wouldn't give much if someone calls Tucker a future borderline all-star, but if this guy sees it like this, I wonder if he has some reasons for that assumption. like 2003, if then someone would have called Josh Howard a future all-star, he would have got a lot of laughs.)

    http://www.draftexpress.com/forums/s...p?t=617&page=2

    Here is the order I could see the SF's going this year (some you may not consider a SF but who I consider their NBA position could be SF) with draft range and potential.
    1. Kevin Durant, Top 2, franchise player
    2. Corey Brewer, Top 10, borderline top bench player/roleplaying starter
    3. Julian Wright, Top 10, roleplaying starter
    4. Nicolaus Batum, late lottery, borderline all star
    5. Jeff Green, Top 10-mid first round, complimentary starter
    6. Al Thornton, mid first round, borderline starter/top bench player
    7. Thaddeus Young, mid to late first round, all star
    8. Derrick Byars, mid first to early second round, roleplaying starter
    9. Brandon Rush, late first to early second round, complimentary starter
    10. Alando Tucker, late first round, borderline all star
    11. Dominic McGuire, early second round, defensive roleplaying starter
    12. Jared Dudley, late first to late second round, end of the bench/better off overseas or lower American league
    13. Reshawn Terry, mid second round, complimentary starter
    14. Demetrius Nichols, mid to late second round, top bench player (6th, 7th, 8th man)
    15. Quenton Hosley, mid second to undrafted, bench player (8th, 9th, 10th man)
    16. Joa Gomes, late second round to undrafted, end of the bench/better off overseas.

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    Again I leave out Nick Young, Marcus Williams, Brandon Rush... due to my thinking of them as primarily SGs. And again, I'd absolutely love to have Brandon Rush.
    I think I'd call Derrick Byars a G/F as well. Another couple guys to lump into the G/F group are Morris Almond and Alando Tucker.

    I know I've said that the Spurs should focus on other areas with one rookie-type G/F already in the fray, but if the Spurs could get their hands on any of the above picks with one of their first two and address a need with the other pick, I couldn't be disappointed...there are some gems in that group.

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    I know this is a day old Tony, but I didnt see any mention of it. I dont know much about this kid



    Updated: April 12, 2007, 3:07 PM ET
    Sop re intends to declare for draftAssociated Press

    CHICAGO -- DePaul sop re Wilson Chandler said Thursday that he intends to declare for the NBA draft.Chandler said he studied his options with his family and coach Jerry Wainwright, and he decided that going into the NBA was the best decision.

    The 6-foot-8 forward led DePaul in scoring and rebounding last season, averaging 14.6 points and 6.9 rebounds. Chandler also led the Blue Demons with 47 blocks last season.

    DePaul had a 20-win season and made the quarterfinals of the NIT.

    Copyright 2007 by The Associated Press
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    I know this is a day old Lony, but I didnt see any mention of it. I dont know much about this kid.
    mards, I brought this up in message #620, but not a big thing. We haven't talked about him really.

    He could be competing with Dominic McGuire for the same spots in the early 2nd round - they're similarly off the radar but nice prospects who aren't fully developed. With good workouts these guys could definitely bust into the first round. There will be a lot of movement.

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    I love a deep draft like the one this year. It makes things so much more exciting. Last years draft was such a snoozer.

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    I love a deep draft like the one this year. It makes things so much more exciting. Last years draft was such a snoozer.
    Last year's draft, I'm convinced, will be an all-time worst. Some potential All-Stars (Roy, Bargnani) and not much else.

    This year's draft will be among the best ever. Not all these guys will be good players, but this draft could replenish the league with talent. Guys into the second round, at a good rate, will be in the league for a while.

    Last year's draft? Guys like Morrison, Carney, Red ... would these guys even get picked in the top 20 this year?

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    I don't think Spurs should draft a SF/PF at all cost.
    If they isn't one very good available, Spurs rather draft/sign a good SG/SF and a quick PF.

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    Hoyas' Green, Hibbert to submit names for draftAssociated Press


    WASHINGTON -- Jeff Green and Roy Hibbert, the juniors who led Georgetown to the school's first Final Four appearance in 22 years, will submit their names for the NBA draft.

    Neither player will sign with an agent before the early withdrawal date, the Hoyas said Friday, which means they will retain NCAA eligibility should either or both decide to return to college.

    "Both young men have worked extremely hard to position themselves for this opportunity," coach John Thompson III said. "They have begun a process of information gathering which is necessary for them to make educated decisions."

    The early withdrawal date is June 18. The draft will be held June 28.

    Both players would likely be lottery picks. Thompson said earlier this week that Green and Hibbert wanted to get an idea as to how high they would be picked before deciding whether to turn pro.

    Green was the player of the year in the Big East and most outstanding player of the NCAA East Regional this season, and his versatility would make him a coveted player in the NBA. The 6-foot-9 forward led the Hoyas in scoring (14.3 points) and was second in both rebounding (6.4) and assists (3.2).

    Hibbert, a 7-2 center, could become a strong post player in the NBA but still needs to polish his game. He led the Hoyas in rebounds (6.9) and averaged 12.9 points. He also blocked 90 shots.

    Copyright 2007 by The Associated Press
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    I don't think Spurs should draft a SF/PF at all cost.
    If they isn't one very good available, Spurs rather draft/sign a good SG/SF and a quick PF.
    I'll go for that. Derrick Byars/Alando Tucker, etc. What do you think of Glen Davis? He'd be interesting next to Duncan.

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    I'll go for that. Derrick Byars/Alando Tucker, etc. What do you think of Glen Davis? He'd be interesting next to Duncan.
    Interesting is one word - he's got a useful skillset on offense (he's fairly perimeter oriented, which makes him quite a mismatch), but I'm not sure if he can fit on the defensive end. Ideally, we pair Duncan with a mobile guy who can go out with a perimeter PF, leaving Duncan to control the paint. I'm not sure that Davis can do that.

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    I'll go for that. Derrick Byars/Alando Tucker, etc. What do you think of Glen Davis? He'd be interesting next to Duncan.
    From what I read, he was very dedicated before this last season of getting into shape and becoming the go-to guy for LSU, but he was unsuccessful and actually gained back alot of the weight he had lost. I think he's an intriguing prospect because he's got decent athleticism and a smooth game from the perimeter....but my guess is that the Spurs already have their hands full with talented F/C that have weight issues. Still....I think he'd be good next to Duncan if Butler doesn't work out....

    BTW...what was up with Ely dressing v. the Timberwolves...talk about a waste.

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    I don't think Spurs should draft a SF/PF at all cost.
    If they isn't one very good available, Spurs rather draft/sign a good SG/SF and a quick PF.
    Agreed here, which is in fact why I'd like for the Spurs to grab Best Player Available at #27/28.....

    Guys like Dominic McGuire could be found with the second pick, but guys like Travis Outlaw/James Singleton with similar skill sets should be available as well. With a draft this deep, I just hope the Spurs get two prospects worthy of future consideration....

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    I just ran across the DX write up on Danilo Gallinari. They really like this 18 y.o. 6'9 or 6'10' SF. They projected him as the 9th best SF.

    http://www.draftexpress.com/viewprofile.php?p=535


    I don't know if he's got a long contract with his Italian league team, but he sure sounds interesting. Check him out.

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    Someone who Spurs fans shouldn't give up on falling to the Spurs is Acie Law. Point guards whose main trait in college is being "clutch" don't usually fly off the board too early. Unless he proves himself in individual workouts or tests out at Chicago as a better athlete than I imagine, he could fall toward the end of the first round.

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