trump impeachment watch thread

[RandomGuy]

1st time
Is it acceptable for a president to ask for assistance from foreign governments for dirt on political rivals?

Did that happen?

and why do you keep asking me questions unrelated to what I post?

Just want to see what your tolerance for abuse of power/office is.

It is too difficult a question for you? It is pretty easy for me.

2nd time.
Is it acceptable for a president to ask for assistance from foreign governments for dirt on political rivals?

Again, did that happen? I haven't seen clear evidence. Let's see what comes forward. Case looks weak at the moment.

Is it ok for a President to ask a foreign government to investigate possible corruption in their country?

Yes, it happened.
Yes, it is ok for a President ask a foreign government to investigate possible corruption in their country.

My question was simply a general one, as yours is.

3rd time
Is it acceptable for a president to ask for assistance from foreign governments for dirt on political rivals?

[responds to Winehole a couple of times]

4th time
My general working theory is that self-identified conservatives aren't honest. Not answering good faith, honest questions tend to support that.

Is it acceptable for a president to ask for assistance from foreign governments for dirt on political rivals?

[baseline bum]

If the public gets on board, the GOP could cave. Trump continually melting down may not help him in this regard.

Trump's base will never ditch him, and anyone who goes against him in the GOP is done in a primary.

[Pavlov]

Trump's base will never ditch him, and anyone who goes against him in the GOP is done in a primary.

Mitt would survive, but otherwise it would have to be someone on the way out or out of office. They would still lose, but the right guy could be effective.

[vy65]

Interesting

The IC amended 50 U.S.C. § 3033(k)(5) on their own?

[Winehole23]

Trump's base will never ditch him, and anyone who goes against him in the GOP is done in a primary.

You’re probably right, but the political calculus could change. Never underestimate the survival instinct.

Trump isn’t as well liked as stalwart GOP Ongressional support would seem to indicate.

[RandomGuy]

Trump's base will never ditch him, and anyone who goes against him in the GOP is done in a primary.

Agreed on both items.

They have chosen the hill to die on.

My take:

A president can be removed if this Congress determines that the president's conduct as a public official is clearly out of bounds in his/her role, because impeachment is not about punishment.
Impeachment is about restoring honor and integrity to the office of the Presidency.

[Pavlov]

Interesting

Why?

The IG found the claim credible.

You deal only in conspiracy theories, Darrin.

[DarrinS]

The IC amended 50 U.S.C. § 3033(k)(5) on their own?

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[Winehole23]

Interviewing witnesses and putting it in a report is hearsay.

Hearsay!

[baseline bum]

You’re probably right, but the political calculus could change. Never underestimate the survival instinct.

Trump isn’t as well liked as stalwart GOP Ongressional support would seem to indicate.

Trump's not liked at all by his party, but he is loved by his party's voters. His party pretends they're a conservative party but his voters know they're really a white iden y party.

[Pavlov]

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What's your conspiracy theory this time, Darrin?

Step up.

[Winehole23]

Interviewing witnesses and putting it in a report is hearsay.

Hearsay!

The policeman didn’t see the crime, his report is corrupt!

[vy65]

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Yeah, my eyes work.

You realize that "first hand knowledge" is not a statutory requirement - and congress left it to the ICIG to make determinations of credibility.

[RandomGuy]

Is it acceptable for a president to ask for assistance from foreign governments to make up dirt on political rivals?

Lol, "make up dirt"

"make up" or "provide", either way you wish.

Is it acceptable for a president to ask for assistance from foreign governments for dirt on political rivals?

[repeat of right wing conspiracy theory, evading answering]

Not really an honest answer. My general working theory is that self-identified conservatives aren't honest. Not answering good faith, honest questions tend to support that.

Is it acceptable for a president to ask for assistance from foreign governments for dirt on political rivals?

[pictures from the federalist about a bureaucratic form]

My general working theory is that self-identified conservatives aren't honest. Not answering good faith, honest questions tend to support that.

Is it acceptable for a president to ask for assistance from foreign governments for dirt on political rivals?

[Spurminator]

What's your conspiracy theory this time, Darrin?

Step up.

LOL becoming Deep State truther because you hate the libs

[RandomGuy]

It's almost like there is some sort of pattern here.

[DarrinS]

Yeah, my eyes work.

You realize that "first hand knowledge" is not a statutory requirement

It doesn't appear to be a requirement as of the latest revision of that form

[vy65]

It doesn't appear to be a requirement as of the latest revision of that form

What do you think takes precedence - a form or an enabling statute?

[Winehole23]

It doesn't appear to be a requirement as of the latest revision of that form

what’s your hypothesis about that?

how is it interesting?

[Pavlov]

It doesn't appear to be a requirement as of the latest revision of that form

Was it ever required by law, Darrin?

Yes or no.


Also still waiting on your conspiracy theory.

[SnakeBoy]

You're smart enough to see that, I think. You got the Ukraine timeline wrong, why not take your lumps in humility like a mensch?

I didn't even mention the Ukraine timeline.

[Winehole23]

I didn't even mention the Ukraine timeline.

You’re being coy.

In another thread a few hours ago you said the House Judiciary Commitee voted money for an investigation before they knew what they were investigating.

You were mistaken about that.

[Winehole23]

Goes to talking out your ass.

[ducks]

Interesting

Yeah why secretly makes you think this was planned. We must stop trump we will secretly change rules then get him

[Sheriff Hoyt]