Official 2016 Spurs Offseason Thread

[SpursFan86]

Adam Joseph ‏@AdamJosephSport

Russell Westbrook is set to sign an extension with OKC. Details are with the league for final approvals. Press conference is tomorrow.

Chinook

This makes no sense, right? Westbrook would lose out on quite a bit of money if he extended now as opposed to re-signing next year, correct?

[SAGirl]

Adam Joseph ‏@AdamJosephSport

Russell Westbrook is set to sign an extension with OKC. Details are with the league for final approvals. Press conference is tomorrow.

Good news!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Always felt like Russell was the Alpha in that team.. He's not afraid of the challenge to be the man. Really glad for OkC fans TBH.

[SpursFan86]

Good news!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Always felt like Russell was the Alpha in that team.. He's not afraid of the challenge to be the man. Really glad for OkC fans TBH.

It's some random guy with little-to-no credibility, and no other credible sources have mentioned it...so I wouldn't be so sure of anything at this point

[toki9]

Chinook

This makes no sense, right? Westbrook would lose out on quite a bit of money if he extended now as opposed to re-signing next year, correct?

Doesn't seem to be the case...here is an interesting article. Basically, he can extend the contract so he becomes a free agent as a 10-year player (Tier 3 max player) rather than opting out next year--and then re-sign with OKC. In that scenario, it seems to net him $258.8 (million) vs opting out next year and signing with someone else ($198 million). It's complicated.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/front-o...000000869.html

[timtonymanu]

Watch that got Fisher sign with the Dubs because he would.

[sasaint]

Chinook

This makes no sense, right? Westbrook would lose out on quite a bit of money if he extended now as opposed to re-signing next year, correct?

So, it only makes sense for Spurs players to give hometown discounts to enable the front office to build a stronger team around them?

[Chinook]

Chinook

This makes no sense, right? Westbrook would lose out on quite a bit of money if he extended now as opposed to re-signing next year, correct?

Not necessarily. He can get a max extension using OKC's cap space, and that would be worth more over the next four years than anything another team can give him, and depending on how low the cap is, it might be more than even OKC can give him.

However, he can't be traded for six months if he signs that type of deal. Getting close to the deadline. In any case, this would take him off the market for a long time.

[toki9]

Not necessarily. He can get a max extension using OKC's cap space, and that would be worth more over the next four years than anything another team can give him, and depending on how low the cap is, it might be more than even OKC can give him.

However, he can't be traded for six months if he signs that type of deal. Getting close to the deadline. In any case, this would take him off the market for a long time.

Here is an article that gives more color on the salary scenario: http://sports.yahoo.com/news/front-o...000000869.html

[SpursFan86]

Looks like there might have been something to it...

At least we can stop hearing about the "Westbrook to Spurs" trade scenarios

[LakerHater]

[cutewizard]

Derek Fisher running out of money, ey? hehehehehehe

omg this human wants to play again, perhaps for OKC, hahahahaha

[cutewizard]

Adam Joseph ‏@AdamJosephSport

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No Los Angeles for the fashionista then??

Haha, Lakers and Clippers be sad.

Russell Westbrook is set to sign an extension with OKC. Details are with the league for final approvals. Press conference is tomorrow.

[tholdren]

I hope he rings next year. There's something to be said about loyalty.

[cutewizard]

Westbrook could be regular season MVP next year with a slew of triple doubles, lol

[SAGirl]

It's some random guy with little-to-no credibility, and no other credible sources have mentioned it...so I wouldn't be so sure of anything at this point

Awww well, someone went out on a limb lol

[SAGirl]

Looks like there might have been something to it...

At least we can stop hearing about the "Westbrook to Spurs" trade scenarios

Go for it Russ...
Frankly not that I am an OKC or Russ fan, but I respect him more than the Durbeta. And it also diminishes the league to have excessive teams like the current GSW. I hope they underachieve and Durant leaves if anything bc I don't like so many stars jumbled up together. They already had a big 3 and didn't need Durbeta.

Now I will be entertained thinking where Durbeta ends up next season. I think he's opting out.

Damn I want the Spurs to catch the GSW unawares. I don't know if we have it, but we definitely have more offensive firepower than last season...

[cutewizard]

Never underestimate a motivated Gasol, Lamarcus and Kawhi.......

Gasol, when inspired, is the best player in a game......

Lamarcus better improved this offseason with the salary the Spurs are giving him.....

And Kawhi, how is he now, how is he doing? What moves did he add to his repertoire??

[Chinook]

People shouldn't be crediting Russ. He's essentially agreeing to give OKC another year in exchange for like $40 Million. He's signing a two-year extension with a player option after the first year. It's not a horrible move by the Thunder, but no one should be patting Westbrook on the back either.

[SAGirl]

People shouldn't be crediting Russ. He's essentially agreeing to give OKC another year in exchange for like $40 Million. He's signing a two-year extension with a player option after the first year. It's not a horrible move by the Thunder, but no one should be patting Westbrook on the back either.

Well financial considerations are huge but it's still two years of a short career. He definitely could have done Durbeta move.

[Keepin' it real]

You're thinking of one on one basketball, not team basketball. In team basketball, a role player having just a size advantage on offense isn't valuable especially if he can't get past his man off the dribble ( which is the case for Anderson vs. NBA wings). If anything, a role player just having a size advantage is fools gold. Fools gold because you don't want to force feed a role player just because he has a size advantage -- the long run value on that proposition is negative. The end result will be a contested two ( the defender will be able to stay between him and the basket and a role player like Anderson won't ever demand a double team from a smart team). Another reason why its fools gold is because a player like Anderson shouldn't be taking a lot of shots in the first place -- and if he is, then you're a losing team or will lose. For role players, you want them to be as efficient as possible in the secondary option scenarios where they receive the bulk of their limited touches or opportunities from passes from the primary facilitators in the offense ( Kawhi, Aldridge, Parker, Pau, Manu).

For role playing wings, those secondary option scenarios include:
1. Catch and shoot 3's.
2. Ability to get past their man and create off hard close outs.
3. Finish strong off cuts to the basket from the weakside.
4. Being able to create the most efficient shot possible in desperate late shot clock situations.

For role playing PFs or Cs, those secondary option scenarios include:
1. Finishing inside efficiently -- lay ups, dunks, floaters.
2. Being able to make the right pass on 3 on 2, 2 on 1 opportunities off early catches on dives. ( Diaw was great at it, so was Splitter -- Anderson was great in the action during small sample in SL last month)
3. Being able to knock down PnPop opportunities from three or from midrange (hate midrange PnPops -- so glad West is gone).
4. Cleaning up weakside uncontested O rebounds when an attempted block is missed
5. Being able to create off the dribble from fake dribble hand off/pinch post action when their defender cheats over anticipating the drive or jumper from the wing/soon to be ball handler.
6. Being able to create the most efficient shot possible in desperate late shot clock situations.

It's more valuable to be quicker than your defender instead of taller -- especially in the NBA where its 5 on 5 and getting past your man can create the most efficient shots in basketball -- whether you're creating a shot at the basket for you or your teammate or the defense rotates over and it creates an open look from 3 on the weakside. Anderson has the ball-handling, size, passing, creating off the dribble tools, like Diaw, to create great looks for himself and his teammates from the power forward spot -- not small forward. Anderson is quicker than most PF's and has the length to where he's not oversized at the position. He'll be able to create more from triple threat positions off the catch, from fake dribble hand offs, and he'll also create great opportunities for his teammates and himself as a secondary play maker in dive PnR action when he receives the pass early in the dive action after he sets the screen for the ball handler ( like Diaw).

Anderson also has more positive value on D at the PF position as most of the offensive action with bench line ups is evolved around the perimeter in todays game. Having Anderson being the guy that switches or hedges out on the wing is valuable and will prolong the time the offense has to create a great look -- which is correlated to teams getting deep in the clock and taking bad shots. He also has the size to defend the back up PF well in ISO post situations -- if the opposition chooses to try to exploit that matchup -- which they'd be dumb to because post play is the most inefficient type of offensive -- especially for back up PFs.

In my opinion, Anderson has more value at the back up four spot than the back up three. No one can convince me otherwise. He should compete with Lee for minutes the position and I don't think Lee stands a chance to be the back up five over Dedmon as Dedmon is by far the superior player in all phases on defense.

[Ditty]

I'm just happy it's another year or two Lakers fans will continue being delusional that Westbrook will join them, while continuing to be mediocre at best.

[Chinook]

Well financial considerations are huge but it's still two years of a short career. He definitely could have done Durbeta move.

It's one year. He'll be in the same position next year.

[SAGirl]

It's one year. He'll be in the same position next year.

He wont be a FA for two years right?
or am I confused here.

[spurs10]

If he has a player option for 18-19 it sounds like the first two years he is in OKC. Perhaps he has a player option in 17-18 too..??

[Sean Cagney]

Looks like there might have been something to it...

At least we can stop hearing about the "Westbrook to Spurs" trade scenarios

Some how I think you will still hear them from some folks in here , they will come up with some crazy trade Scenario and how he inked the deal just because they came to terms behind closed doors before they traded him to SA.