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  1. #701
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    How good is Francisco Garcia?

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    How good is Francisco Garcia?
    he can be stackhouse before stackhouse sucked.

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    How good is Francisco Garcia?
    hes a legit 2,He can defend well and hit the 3

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    so is michael redd talk completely gone? If he can be had, I'd take him before Artest.

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    he can be stackhouse before stackhouse sucked.
    Then I would definitely do that deal, because Artest/Garcia would plug up the holes at the 2 and 3. I count a hole at the 3 now because of how terrible Smokey was to end the season. The Mavs should ask for Garcia if they're going to take on Kenny Thomas' contract. What the do the Kings need him for, Kevin Martin is their star 2-guard now.

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    so is michael redd talk completely gone? If he can be had, I'd take him before Artest.
    Looks like the Bucks want to make a run at the seventh seed in the East.

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    Interesting...

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    A source who would know shared some scenario with HoopsWorld today, basically saying there is a lot of interest in Artest. The Dallas Mavericks are offering basically the same thing they did last year Brandon Bass and Jerry Stackhouse for Ron-Ron. Rick Carlisle would love to have Ron back in his locker room, but he's not willing to part with Josh Howard to get it done. That likely means the Mavs don't have a deal. Stackhouse is a great locker room guy and probably a future coach, but his health is a huge concern. Brandon Bass has huge upside and was an important part of the Mavs' success last season, especially before the Kidd trade. But is he worth Artest? Maybe not. HoopsWorld
    Didn't know they offered the same thing last year. Sadly, if this is all the F.O. is willing to offer we may not be getting him.

    Looks like rick doesnt wanna give up JHOudini

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    Fire Carlisle

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    The Mavs apparently aren't aware that the rest of the basketball world saw what happened against New Orleans in the playoffs.

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    Amazing, a couple months with Cuban and now Rick is fellating anybody in a Mavs uniform too.

    Plus, as great as Bass was, he still averaged only 8 and 4. He's got upside but he isn't the huge trading chip the FO apparently thinks he is.

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    he can be stackhouse before stackhouse sucked.
    30 PPG?

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    I was talking about just the Dallas version of Stackhouse. a 13 PPG bench scorer type being before he sucked, as opposed to the black hole brick machine he was last year.

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    Stackhouse as a Mav before the wheels came completely off the past year. That high scoring average earlier in his career was when he was nothing but a chucker.

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    I think it's pretty simple.

    If Howard is not in the deal then we don't get Artest. But if Howard is in the deal we want back either Salmons or Garcia. To better compensate for the additional player coming back we'll also throw in Bass, a young big-man talent and a combination of Stackhouse and EJ so we can take Kenny Thomas' contract off their hands.

    The kings get to unload a nasty contract, acquire an all-star caliber player in return, get a quality veteran with an expiring deal, and get a young big with potential all in exchange for two players stuck on their bench and one making trouble for the organization.

    I'm not sure what the Mavs FO fascination is with Howard, he is a nice player but Artest can dominate a game on both ends of the court and we need a guy on this team that can do that. As currently constructed this team isn't going to cut it so let's make something happen.

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    I think it's pretty simple.

    If Howard is not in the deal then we don't get Artest. But if Howard is in the deal we want back either Salmons or Garcia. To better compensate for the additional player coming back we'll also throw in Bass, a young big-man talent and a combination of Stackhouse and EJ so we can take Kenny Thomas' contract off their hands.

    The kings get to unload a nasty contract, acquire an all-star caliber player in return, get a quality veteran with an expiring deal, and get a young big with potential all in exchange for two players stuck on their bench and one making trouble for the organization.

    I'm not sure what the Mavs FO fascination is with Howard, he is a nice player but Artest can dominate a game on both ends of the court and we need a guy on this team that can do that. As currently constructed this team isn't going to cut it so let's make something happen.
    Yeah, pretty much sums it up. Both Howard and Artest have their issues.

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    Summer 2006: The Refs
    Summer 2007: The Perfect Storm
    Summer 2008: The Coach

    What will be the le of the excuse next summer?

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    WTF is our GM doing coaching the Chinese national team, shouldnt he be soley focused on the Mavs and improving the team and not the pick n roll defense of China.

    Donnie is more of a joke then i thought

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    Summer 2006: The Refs
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    What will be the le of the excuse next summer?
    Summer 2009: The GM

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    At least getting tickets will be easy next year. The cocaine and boob job crowd will be too busy watching the Stars.

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    anyone see dirk cry and get all emotional when Germany won over puerto rico to get to the olympics?

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    WTF is our GM doing coaching the Chinese national team, shouldnt he be soley focused on the Mavs and improving the team and not the pick n roll defense of China.

    Donnie is more of a joke then i thought
    They love their team, he doesn't have anything else to do the rest of the summer as Mavs GM. Not that he did anything noteworthy this offseason to begin with.

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    They love their team, he doesn't have anything else to do the rest of the summer as Mavs GM. Not that he did anything noteworthy this offseason to begin with.
    The basketball apple seems to fall pretty far from that tree.

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    anyone see dirk cry and get all emotional when Germany won over puerto rico to get to the olympics?
    Team Germany can go out and get a legit center this summer, but it's been a good 20 years since the Mavs last had one. I love it.

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