In Los Angeles and Orange County you have to plan your day around traffic. You cannot just hop in your car and go anywhere at 2pm.
I moved to "the OC" (which we never called it that) in 1982 and there was hardly any traffic then. But with all the building they've done out there, that's quickly changed. SA was like that when I first moved here in 1997, but it's changing. It's starting to remind me of OC.
I avoid the 410 as much as possible.


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