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    Parker IMO, by far.

    Parker has proved he can probably the number 1 scorer in the NBA if he is the main focus. It was basically the San Antonio Parkers and w/o Duncan and Manu the Spurs are mediocre at best, but Tony makes them a playoff team.
    Whoa whoa calm down big shot. Put down the crack pipe and think before speakaing.

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    Whoa whoa calm down big shot. Put down the crack pipe and think before speakaing.
    Just kidding about the crack pipe statement but really that's not true.

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    Whoa whoa calm down big shot. Put down the crack pipe and think before speakaing.
    Don't know what's so outlandish about my statement.

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    I don't understand it. Is TDMVPDPOY a bandwagon fan? no..couldn't be..because we're winning. Is he hating on one of the main reasons we've won 3 les? I'm confused...my head is going to explode. I know the guy's half stupid..I've read a lot of his comments...but hatin on Tony after the way he's played lately? Pure treason.

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    Tony is perfect for the Spurs. Seriously, it is like they custom created a pg for this team (oh wait, they did)

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    The envy of having no PG that belongs above the D league is pouring out of you. First off, Duncan was there for 4 rings, so there goes your knowledge on that. Second off, Tony led us to the 2007 le. PERIOD! That's why he was the MVP. If you were sharper than a bag of wet hair, you'd understand that. Go away..please. Tony - 3 les, one Finals MVP, better stats, even with two other superstars on his team. Deron - No les, no Finals APPEARANCES, less stats. Let's get real here..please..quit hating.

    Dumbass I don't have a favorite team. WTF are you babbling about? STFU!

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    I don't understand it. Is TDMVPDPOY a bandwagon fan? no..couldn't be..because we're winning. Is he hating on one of the main reasons we've won 3 les? I'm confused...my head is going to explode. I know the guy's half stupid..I've read a lot of his comments...but hatin on Tony after the way he's played lately? Pure treason.
    dude you make it sound like tp is the reason why we got there or win in the first place....replace either one player ginoboli or parker with any top swingman or pg in the league and the spurs would still win a ring....reason being tim duncan is the anchor for everything, either defense or offense.

    replace any top pgs in the league the same year in place of tp and we still win a ring during those years....exclude JKIDD who i think is overrated than steve nash.

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    dude you make it sound like tp is the reason why we got there or win in the first place....replace either one player ginoboli or parker with any top swingman or pg in the league and the spurs would still win a ring....reason being tim duncan is the anchor for everything, either defense or offense.

    replace any top pgs in the league the same year in place of tp and we still win a ring during those years....exclude JKIDD who i think is overrated than steve nash.
    You're still insane. No freaking way I'd take any PG over TP..including Paul..he's perfect for this team. And Manu has been our spark. You can't just plug any piece into a team and make it a championship team. If you ever played basketball, you'd know that. It takes a mixture of style, personality, ability to change things about yourself to help the team...it takes more than just.."hey...this guy is pretty good..he'll be good for the team." Knowledge = Power my friend...learn it.

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    You're still insane. No freaking way I'd take any PG over TP..including Paul..he's perfect for this team. And Manu has been our spark. You can't just plug any piece into a team and make it a championship team. If you ever played basketball, you'd know that. It takes a mixture of style, personality, ability to change things about yourself to help the team...it takes more than just.."hey...this guy is pretty good..he'll be good for the team." Knowledge = Power my friend...learn it.
    so your telling me either of these combinations wont win a ring?
    td+gino+deron 06/07
    td+gino+cp3 07/08
    td+gino+nash 04/05-06/07

    offensive structure will be different with these pgs running the system, but you will see it more team orientated.

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    The envy of having no PG that belongs above the D league is pouring out of you. First off, Duncan was there for 4 rings, so there goes your knowledge on that. Second off, Tony led us to the 2007 le. PERIOD! That's why he was the MVP. If you were sharper than a bag of wet hair, you'd understand that. Go away..please. Tony - 3 les, one Finals MVP, better stats, even with two other superstars on his team. Deron - No les, no Finals APPEARANCES, less stats. Let's get real here..please..quit hating.
    I agree with you on the fact I think i'd rather have tony, but because we know how he fits into the system. Deron Williams is younger and a great ball player who is not playing next to duncan. Parker didn't win 3 les alone, so throwing around the 3 les isn't fair. And to say that Tony LED us to a championship in 2007 is as far from the truth as can be. Tim was the MVP of the playoffs... parker was the finals mvp, parker could have sat and we beat that cavs team in 5. Unfortunately there is a FINALS MVP, and not a playoff MVP

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    Deron Williams is a good player but has not yet made it to the conference finals and seems to have a lot of injuries (this year in particular). Tony has been there 3 times and was the finals MVP once. Deron has not made it back to the level he was played at for the last couple of years. If you go on body of work it is no contest. Tony Parker...

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    tp by far

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    Dumbass I don't have a favorite team. WTF are you babbling about? STFU!
    Um...you have the Rockets as your team. A normal human being would assume that's your team...watch the personal insults, bag...lol. And I'm sorry..your idiocy makes you deserve anything that is said to you. How stupid can you be, thinking that saying an all star veteran PG who has won 3 les and has been the Finals MVP is not better than one who has nothing. Idiot.

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    I agree with you on the fact I think i'd rather have tony, but because we know how he fits into the system. Deron Williams is younger and a great ball player who is not playing next to duncan. Parker didn't win 3 les alone, so throwing around the 3 les isn't fair. And to say that Tony LED us to a championship in 2007 is as far from the truth as can be. Tim was the MVP of the playoffs... parker was the finals mvp, parker could have sat and we beat that cavs team in 5. Unfortunately there is a FINALS MVP, and not a playoff MVP
    Exactly...he fits perfectly into the system. And it's true...Tim led us through the playoffs, and Tony led us in the Finals..but that's what I was saying to the other guy...Tony was the guy in the Finals...and Deron hasn't even been there.

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    I'll keep the proven finals mvp over Deron any day. Deron has yet to prove that he can be a winner at the nba level. He could just be another marbury or Tim hardaway. Always putting up really respectable numbers but never leading a team to the le. Tony has already done that.
    I beg to differ....

    Tony hasn't led . This is Timmy's team.

    Tony has Timmy.......Deron has Boozer.......

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    Exactly...he fits perfectly into the system. And it's true...Tim led us through the playoffs, and Tony led us in the Finals..but that's what I was saying to the other guy...Tony was the guy in the Finals...and Deron hasn't even been there.
    Are you saying that Tony would have lead Utah to a le already if he and Deron switched teams? It's really the only way you can argue that Tony is better than him.

    The players beside each of them them don't even begin to compare.
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    Deron Williams is a good player but has not yet made it to the conference finals and seems to have a lot of injuries (this year in particular). Tony has been there 3 times and was the finals MVP once. Deron has not made it back to the level he was played at for the last couple of years. If you go on body of work it is no contest. Tony Parker...
    Who did the Spurs beat in the WCF in 2007?

    Your name is quite accurate.......

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    hahahahah drop the crack man

    without duncan, the spurs wouldnt even be sniffing out of the first round or suns....tony parker vs gibson we all know who was going to exploit that matchup.

    give me deron williams, cp3 or even derick rose....
    Seriously....... to the part in red only......

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    Are you saying that Tony would have lead Utah to a le if he and Deron switched teams? It's really the only way you can argue that Tony is better than him.

    The players beside each of them them don't even begin to compare.
    No...that's not what I'm saying. Read my posts. What I've said is that I would pick Tony because Tony fits perfectly into our system. No offense to Deron, at all. And if you DID read this thread before arguing, you would have noticed that the reason I even said anything is because the guy said the only reason anyone would say they would pick Tony over Deron is because they're a homer. Stupid comment, so I argued it.

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    im sure one of the moderators would take derron williams bc tony has a c- grade hahahaha

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    Williams and only because I'm biased towards playmaking PGs w/c Deron is. He's also a very capable scorer He's bigger and stronger He'd fit well with the Spurs.

    Parker is a scoring PG. He can be a playmaker but that's not his primary focus. Obviously he's a great fit for the Spurs

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    hypothetically speaking so it makes the question fair, if deron was accustomed to the spurs system, what player would you rather have on the spurs squad running the show, tony or Deron?
    Closet Jazz fan.

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    yall Parker haters.. get the out of this forum... bags.
    For the first time...I agree with Sequ Spur!

    TP gets no love...it's absolutely amazing!!


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    Williams and only because I'm biased towards playmaking PGs w/c Deron is. He's also a very capable scorer He's bigger and stronger He'd fit well with the Spurs.

    Parker is a scoring PG. He can be a playmaker but that's not his primary focus. Obviously he's a great fit for the Spurs
    if tp was in utah he would average more assist then williams

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