Reply With Quote
Corzine has been awwwful... he deserved to lose.
CNN has a 'Big Night for GOP" headline...... is that the spin? Not bad for 'liberally biased' network acknowledging the GOP success huh?and i was waiting for the spin on this lone victory later on in the news.
didn't have to go far.
mmmm.mmmmm. mmmmm.
Corzine has been awwwful... he deserved to lose.
BTW, I'm fairly certain I know where you got your results from, but I'm going to give you some advice. Look to see what the district comprised prior to 1993 and then maybe you will understand why a Democrat "won".
http://www.thealbanyproject.com/diar...istory-of-ny23If Democrats win NY-23 in a special election to be held later this year, it will therefore be the first time in 159 years that a Democrat is elected to represent at least a part of the district. The map below gives you an idea of how long it's been since parts of the district have been Democratic-held. Almost two-thirds of the population of the current district (62%) live in territory that has not elected a Democrat since 1890 or earlier. It really is mind-boggling .... (for those political geeks interested in more history about this district, I provide additional information below the map).
It may have put him on the map, but she's extremely polarizing and poison to the independent voters who always decide these elections.
hoffman was the third pary candidate. The republicrat didn't drop out until two days ago. Put her 5-6% she got and hoffman would have won. this is more of a show of the rnc's inability to put the right small govt. guys that will keep the base happy and be electable.
She's more popular than she is polarizing, McCain was going nowhere until he added her to the ticket and the fund raising surge and turnout to see her speak was huge. Then the media and Democrats made her a victim by going after her kids and or turning a blind eye to it.
She's not just popular with pro-lifers, I'm not a pro-lifer and I like her. And Roe VS Wade really has no teeth any more.
I don't see the doom forecast over her being at odds with the Republican party either...
Just a quick history lesson, she lost the bid for LT Governor of Alaska(doesn't seem to do good in elections she goes for a subordinate postion), then she went after the Republican Party, then she became the Governor.
Along the way, she QUIT, her post on the Oil and Gas board...I guess because she couldn't handle politics.
Actually these elections are rarely decided by independents but rather partisans. And if you look at the demographics of this district they are very much the kind that favor Palin type candidates.
Anyway...I'll be surprised if some Republicans aren't voted in over the next few elctions...country seldom stays totally swung in one direction for very long.
I don't think having a crapload of parties is ever good thing as it allows extremists to win elections...but since both parties suck and are leading the people instead of the other way around, hopefully some 3rd party candidates will get some spots as well.
Every conservative is the same thing for dems - first they call them stupid, then crazy, and then heartlless. the biggest problem with palin is she didn't go to the party elites and get their blessing or water down her message for them. If I remember her problems came when mccain tried to dim her down.She's more popular than she is polarizing, McCain was going nowhere until he added her to the ticket and fund raising surge and turnout to see her speak was huge. Then the media and Democrats made her a victim by going after her kids.
She's not just popular with pro-lifers, I'm not a pro-lifer and I like her. And Roe VS Wade really has no teeth any more.
I don't see the doom forecast over her being at odds with the Republican party either...
Just a quick history lesson, she lost the bid for LT Governor of Alaska, then she went after the Republican Party, then she became the Governor.
Along the way, she QUIT, her post on the Oil and Gas board...I guess because she couldn't handle politics
Apparently they aren't since the Palin type candidate lost.
The biggest problem for Palin is she played the pitbull attack-dog one second and cried victim the next. You can't base your whole campaign on slinging mud and then get pissed when it comes back to you.
I guess what I'm saying is that if there was a place where Palin was going to be effective it would be in a place like this. In any event, Hoffman doesn't have a chance without Palin's endorsement.
Like Darrin pointed out...everytime they go the stupid route the Republican wins.
I'm not sure if the socialist route has a similar effect...although I do think something similar occurred when Carter won.
What works best against the Republicans is glossing them as religious fantatics(or when they run a war hero) and what works best against the Democrats is glossing them as pussies.
Hoffman got into the race late - so I still think he did pretty good, considering. If the Republicans had held a primary instead of selecting such an awful candidate, Hoffman would've probably won. Scozzafava was a lib masquarading as a Republican, and she deserved to get kicked out of the race. The fact that she went and endorsed the democrat tells you all you need to know about her.
This should serve as a wake up call to the Republican party - don't give us liberal candidates. We don't want Democrat lite - we want real conservatives.
Since this was a special election, is the winner up for re-election again next year? If so, it will be interesting to see who runs against him.
Well Manny - the people of Maine have spoken loud and clear - NO GAY MARRIAGE! Has there been any state where the voters approved it?
Apparently not.
^ bear in mind this was posted earlier this afternoon.Palin has bad numbers in NY-23
Sarah Palin's not getting elected President in 2012.
We had plenty of data points to tell us that already but I find it fascinating that a plurality of voters have an unfavorable opinion of her even in NY-23.
43% view her favorably to 44% negative. This is in a poll with a party ID breakdown of R+14 that shows Doug Hoffman leading by 17 points. If Palin's not popular in an electorate with that mix she's not going anywhere nationally.
NY-23 is a district with an unusual number of moderate Republicans, and Palin's favorability with them breaks down negatively 53/32. She could overcome those kinds of numbers in a contest to get the Republican nomination but they certainly wouldn't be good enough in a general election. The North Country should be friendly ground for her and if she can't make it there it's hard to see how she can make it anywhere.
Posted by Tom Jensen at 2:00 PM
Damn whottt loves Palin so much. I'd still jam her. She's so hot.
LOL texans are geared from birth to automatically vote in favor of almost any amendment or proposition ever
Yeah, you shouldn't let the results of NY-23 alter your strategy for the future one iota. Keep purging the "moderates" (we all know that's just a euphamism for liberal!) and replacing them ideologically pure conservatives; conservatives so pure, they're not even from the district they're running for, lest their purity become contaminated with filthy, "parochial" issues.
"All politics is local." - Tip O'Neil.
/thread
Gotta love it when a popular vote overrides the cons ution.
WC lives in a fantasy world of his own spinning.
Dems taking the solidly Repug backwater NY-23, after all the Repug national and state (TX Good Hair) heavyweights and rogue pitbull es pushed their local tool, is amazing.
MUCH more meaningful than the Dems losing in racist, Southern VA, and corrupt bankster, very unpopular Dem Corzine losing in NJ.
I live here. Corzine lost because he's ing terrible.
Jacked up all sorts of taxes and tolls and the State deficit kept on ballooning out of control. Plenty of corruption too, I hear.
Now, Christie also looks like guy straight out of the Sopranos, so I don't think we're getting any better anytime soon.
Hope I'm wrong.
I know about the rdistricting, and I didn't get my info from your next posting.
Still, other races in the area have been about evenly split between democrats and republicans as long as it has been the 23rd.
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)
Posting Permissions