The 2010 Free Agent Nobody’s Talking About

[ElNono]

I think the knicks could offer manu crazy money if they get one star fa and no other one joins them

The Knicks are not run by Isiah anymore, but I can tell you D'Antoni loves Manu. Two other coaches that really like him too are Karl in Denver and Doc Rivers in Boston.
This is something else to think about, and something I brought up on a similar thread: How much will it affect the Spurs own championships chances if a team like Boston or Denver pays him just enough to run their second units for them?

There's going to be a lot of things in the balance whenever the Spurs take on this, and it will be more than mere money...

[ElNono]

lol

manu should have enough now to give each kid 10 million

You don't get it, which is not surprising...

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Nice thread. All the major angles have been covered, so I'll just say this:

As for trading Manu, I'd be open to the idea if the team can get a really nice player for his expiring contract. I wouldn't move him just to get an MLE-level player though.

John Salmons and Ty Thomas?

I don't know that I'd pull the trigger on this, because I believe Manu might take 18mil/3yrs to play out his career here, but it's something to think about.

[ducks]

I would only offer him a three year deal if spurs had the rights to exerise the third year or not

[Kori Ellis]

I highly doubt the extension will even out to 10 million a year. I'd think 6.5 to 8.5 million is a good range.

I think it will be closer to $10M a year because the Spurs won't want to give him a third year -- which is what his agent will probably ask for. For a two year deal, I can't imagine the Spurs will be able to sign him for less than 2 years/$18M. They'll probably start negotiations around 2 years/$15M and end up close to $20M, IMO.

[ducks]

how much if he is injured in playoffs again ?

[baseline bum]

The Knicks are not run by Isiah anymore, but I can tell you D'Antoni loves Manu. Two other coaches that really like him too are Karl in Denver and Doc Rivers in Boston.
This is something else to think about, and something I brought up on a similar thread: How much will it affect the Spurs own championships chances if a team like Boston or Denver pays him just enough to run their second units for them?

There's going to be a lot of things in the balance whenever the Spurs take on this, and it will be more than mere money...

Denver and Boston are way over the cap though, so all they can offer is the MLE. I don't see him in either of those places under any cir stance.

[baseline bum]

Nice thread. All the major angles have been covered, so I'll just say this:



John Salmons and Ty Thomas?

I don't know that I'd pull the trigger on this, because I believe Manu might take 18mil/3yrs to play out his career here, but it's something to think about.

I wouldn't make that trade. I have never liked Salmons, and Thomas is pretty much a bust. I'd rather take my chances that Manu gets healthy for the end of season and playoffs, and that he re-signs for a reasonable amount. For 3 years, $18 million, I'd most likely want to bring Manu back.

[temujin]

The Knicks are not run by Isiah anymore, but I can tell you D'Antoni loves Manu. Two other coaches that really like him too are Karl in Denver and Doc Rivers in Boston.
This is something else to think about, and something I brought up on a similar thread: How much will it affect the Spurs own championships chances if a team like Boston or Denver pays him just enough to run their second units for them?

There's going to be a lot of things in the balance whenever the Spurs take on this, and it will be more than mere money...

I fully confirm this.
If the Spurs do well, Ginobili will stay, but if they don't...
I'd be surprised if the Knicks don't make a run at Manu.
And if they get James or Wade/Bosh, I'd be very surprised if he doesn't consider that, irrespective of money.

[raspsa]

Do you know how much it costs to support twins?$18M-$20M for 2 years if he has a good PO run.

[Mark in Austin]

From how butt-hurt Rudoy sounded after negotiations on Manu's last contract with very little leverage, I'd bet a cheeseburger or two that he'll be motivated to line up some real offers from teams with space now that he's not restricted.

[TDMVPDPOY]

does that mean holt has to pay luxury tax again next season?

i dont see it happenning if we dont win the ring this season...FO is going to lowball gino and thats it....

[FkLA]

It was great for the team in 04-05, 05-06, and 06-07. Not so good in 07-08 and 08-09 as his body gave out both seasons. He's certainly not playing up to his $10.75 million contract this season. Fair value is a huge paycut from $11 million a year; the Spurs would be insane to offer him anything more than about $6.5 - $7.5 million. As much as I love Manu, the Spurs cannot afford to pay based on past accomplishments when the last three years have been so underwhelming. Manu most certainly has not aged like a fine wine.

Manu didnt have to lock up his professional prime to a contract like that, he couldve signed a short-term deal because he still had room to grow and showcase his worth...or he couldve held out and demanded more just based on that fact, simply signed a one year qualifying offer like numerous FAs that dont feel like theyre getting what theyre worth, etc. And I dont think some of you truely grasp how much great value we were getting from Manu from 04 to 08 before the WCF injury...you dont think there were numerous teams that wouldve been willing to throw max or near max contracts at Manu's feet after his 2005 run? Yet we were paying him like 8 mill per yr during that time. Manu wasnt just slightly underpaid, he was extremely underpaid.

The man deserves a fair deal, no lowballing.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Manu is going to shock all the doubters this year. He'll be back to "Manu-tastic" by the playoffs.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

I'm with FkLA. If I were the Spurs I'd be working out the extension as we speak.