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    Welcome back Kill_Bill_Pana. Glad you got another chance, I know it meant a lot to you.
    Thanks. I will try not to use the foul language again and also not to argue about American issues.

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    I assure you if you take to an European forum a message "Rubio is best point guard in Europe" you will be laughed out of there by any serious fan. It is actually absurd completely absurd and ridiculous to say Rubio is best point guard in Europe. He is not even the best point guard on his own team.

    He is the best 19 year old European point guard. NOT the best European point guard. But I do not expect the NBA only fans to know the difference. There is never any facts correct about European players from NBA perspective. But you can go to any Europe forum on basketball you like and see their reactions if you say Rubio is best point guard in Europe. The only people that might agree is a few Spanish homers. Most would just laugh at you.
    You should know, you've started one.

    This was my favourite post:

    Is there an option "we don't care about the village idiot's new crusade"?

    I want to vote for that one.
    Too bad your thread predicting Barcelona to miss the qualification for the QF vanished, village idiot.

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    Money seems to be closer than i was expecting actually. with that $ we can offer, and a players dream of being an NBA player... i think its almost certain splitter ends up in s.a....

    only way i thought he wouldn't was that a european team would fly in and offer 2x the money or something, but if thats not the case then great.v

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    The next center they were to get was Maric but he has a 3 year contract with Partizan so it seems he can't be signed
    Yes, because it's basically impossible to buy out players from Partizan. It's much easier to get guys from Baskonia.

    So anyway what are the chances Splitter ends up there? Spurs were counting on him as a sure thing next year.
    0%.

    If they can't even keep their current center away from the NBA, what would make you think they'd be able to pry Splitter when they'd need to negotiate a buyout with his current club?

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    You should know, you've started one.

    This was my favourite post:

    Too bad your thread predicting Barcelona to miss the qualification for the QF vanished, village idiot.
    Can I have a link of this?

    p.s where are you from man, Montenegro, Croatia?

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    You should know, you've started one.

    This was my favourite post:

    Too bad your thread predicting Barcelona to miss the qualification for the QF vanished, village idiot.
    I do not know what is your problem. But in European forum that speaks English 70% of fans say he is not the best and most say he is something like 8th or something like that. So either stop making up lies or just do not talk to me. I do not want to be banned again for the same thing that people like you act this way.

    Making up lies and nonsense and attacking others by saying just stupid things always. Do you understand? I will not respond to you anymore.

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    Money seems to be closer than i was expecting actually. with that $ we can offer, and a players dream of being an NBA player... i think its almost certain splitter ends up in s.a....

    only way i thought he wouldn't was that a european team would fly in and offer 2x the money or something, but if thats not the case then great.v
    I do not believe it was ever Splitter's dream to play in NBA. And I am not sure if Spurs will consider close to $40 million offer for him. I am just explain from Panathinaikos POV there starting offer versus the most Spurs could offer.

    I honest to tell true thing hope he goes to Spurs. They need him much more than Panathinaikos does. Besides to me he is definitely not worth this much money and it will be a mistake for Panathinaikos to sign him for this.

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    Can I have a link of this?

    p.s where are you from man, Montenegro, Croatia?

    From English speaking European forum

    http://forums.interbasket.net/f11/is...t-guard-12461/

    As you see the only people that believe Rubio is best point guard in Europe are NBA fans and Spaniards and Europeans that only follow NBA. Actual Euroleague fans just basic laugh at the idea.

    He is swear that all people in Europe think Rubio is the best but even with so many Spaniards in that forum he cannot even get more than 3/10 people to agree.

    Sure Rubio is best point guard in Europe...........and also it is true that George Hill is best point guard in NBA.

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    0%.

    If they can't even keep their current center away from the NBA, what would make you think they'd be able to pry Splitter when they'd need to negotiate a buyout with his current club?

    Well that's a good point, only possibility I can come up with is Splitter caring more about money while their current center cares more about making the NBA. If this this team offers significantly more than the Spurs are willing to Splitter might chose them.

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    Well that's a good point, only possibility I can come up with is Splitter caring more about money while their current center cares more about making the NBA. If this this team offers significantly more than the Spurs are willing to Splitter might chose them.
    Yes. Pekovic could easily make more money than MLE Wolves could give him if he stays in PAO. It is not money issue. He seems to want to move to NBA. If Pekovic just wanted money he would already have a contract extension much bigger than NBA MLE.

    Maybe Splitter cares about money more. Besides Pekovic could be a starter without even trying in Wolves team. Splitter knows I am sure that Popovich is not easy and he could be benched. He might be scared you never know. And many NBA fans still live in 1996 how they talk about "magical world of NBA". Very few established Euroleague players care about playing in NBA these days. Things are different now. The only "magical NBA world" is from American players because they are full of NBA marketing their whole life just as fans here.

    To players like Splitter than play in a serious professional league and make millions of dollars and are assure of their place NBA allure is a fantasy that NBA fans mostly make up. I do hope he comes to Spurs though.

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    From English speaking European forum

    http://forums.interbasket.net/f11/is...t-guard-12461/

    As you see the only people that believe Rubio is best point guard in Europe are NBA fans and Spaniards and Europeans that only follow NBA. Actual Euroleague fans just basic laugh at the idea.

    He is swear that all people in Europe think Rubio is the best but even with so many Spaniards in that forum he cannot even get more than 3/10 people to agree.

    Sure Rubio is best point guard in Europe...........and also it is true that George Hill is best point guard in NBA.
    clearely quite an arguable point even within Euroleague circles!

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    I do not know what is your problem. But in European forum that speaks English 70% of fans say he is not the best and most say he is something like 8th or something like that. So either stop making up lies or just do not talk to me. I do not want to be banned again for the same thing that people like you act this way.

    Making up lies and nonsense and attacking others by saying just stupid things always. Do you understand? I will not respond to you anymore.


    KBP, your trolling can't fool me. Not when it comes to IBN boards polls, if you catch my drift.
    Last edited by mogrovejo; 06-01-2010 at 09:44 PM.

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    clearely quite an arguable point even within Euroleague circles!
    Forum full of SPANISH fans say 7/10 he is not the best point guard. How can this be debatable? Minus the Spaniards maybe 1/10 think he is the best.

    So if minus Asian Rockets fans 1/10 NBA fans says Aaron Brooks is "best NBA point guard" you will form from that logic that "quite debatable Brooks is best NBA point guard among NBA fans".............

    I am done discussing with you on this. It is just not worth wasting time.

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    Ok, just to set the record straight, here is my list in Europe right now:

    1. Theo
    2. Teodosic
    3. Diamantidis
    4. Rubio

    Spanoulis, Saras are too hurt or too old to be a part of this list right now. You happy KBP? I don't know who else even merits consideration, please don't say Navarro!

    p.s to clarify, I put Milos second because I think him being a better scorer is allowing him to develop really well. I would have no problem though if someone thinks DD is 2.

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    Forum full of SPANISH fans say 7/10 he is not the best point guard. How can this be debatable? Minus the Spaniards maybe 1/10 think he is the best.

    So if minus Asian Rockets fans 1/10 NBA fans says Aaron Brooks is "best NBA point guard" you will form from that logic that "quite debatable Brooks is best NBA point guard among NBA fans".............

    I am done discussing with you on this. It is just not worth wasting time.
    well take away the greeks too, you guys have a lot of vested interest in the discussion!

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    I do not believe it was ever Splitter's dream to play in NBA. And I am not sure if Spurs will consider close to $40 million offer for him. I am just explain from Panathinaikos POV there starting offer versus the most Spurs could offer.

    I honest to tell true thing hope he goes to Spurs. They need him much more than Panathinaikos does. Besides to me he is definitely not worth this much money and it will be a mistake for Panathinaikos to sign him for this.
    so in your opinion who are the best centers in europe or who would you prefer they sign over splitter

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    Well that's a good point, only possibility I can come up with is Splitter caring more about money while their current center cares more about making the NBA. If this this team offers significantly more than the Spurs are willing to Splitter might chose them.
    That would make sense if one couldn't find multiple quotes from KBP and his alliases stating that Pekovic didn't like the NBA and would only join the NBA to be a starter.

    For example:

    However, Minny fans after the game he stated in an interview point blank when asked about the NBA (after some scouts/GMs had talked to him), No, I have no interest in going to the NBA and I will not play in the NBA.

    Which is exactly like I said earlier he has said this numerous times. It seems that Minny's management is making up things about what he is actually saying. I took the benefit of the doubt that posters kept saying he had said he wanted to play in the NBA but knew something was wrong with it. Well, again he said point blank right now he has absolutely no intention of going to the NBA.
    He also said Pekovic is much better than Kevin Love and Al Jefferson.

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    so in your opinion who are the best centers in europe or who would you prefer they sign over splitter
    He'll say Pekovic and Bourousis. He might have an argument for the latter.

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    Splitter is the best center in Europe from the perspective of a NBA team.

    Pekovic can be an extremely interesting player, but it's not going to be that easy for him to translate his game.

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    Ok, just to set the record straight, here is my list in Europe right now:

    1. Theo
    2. Teodosic
    3. Diamantidis
    4. Rubio

    Spanoulis, Saras are too hurt or too old to be a part of this list right now. You happy KBP? I don't know who else even merits consideration, please don't say Navarro!
    This is a joke.

    McIntyre is better than Rubio

    Lakovic is better than Rubio

    Holden is better than Rubio

    Prigioni is better than Rubio

    Lull is better than Rubio

    Planinic is better than Rubio

    McCalebb is better than Rubio

    Logan is better than Rubio

    M Popovich is better than Rubio

    Jamont Gordon is better than Rubio

    Roko Ukic is better than Rubio

    Jaric is better than Rubio

    Washington is better than Rubio

    Charalabidis is better than Rubio

    Zisis, Cabezas, Ribas, Huertas, Keys, Jaaber, Wisniewski, Beverly, Rasic, Cook are in general about the same level , some a little better than him, the same, or a little worse.

    I am only even mentioning Euroleague and Eurocup point guards that come to mind.

    And Rubio is only a little bit better than Batis, Papamakarios, N Calathes, Lopez and players like that. Sure he is much better than Sada and guys in that level but big deal.

    If you really believe he is better than all these other players it is 100% and simple fact that you do not know anything about these other players and probably have never even seen them play. Because many of them are much MUCH better than Rubio in this time.

    In a club like Siena, Olympiacos, I doubt if he would even see the court to be honest. He is one of the best European point guard ever for his age but this other talk is just a dream world of imaginary NBA BS. If NBA fans are so much full of such crazy delusions about how good Rubio really is then he will be the biggest bust of NBA history.

    You are expecting a basketball god and he is just a good player.

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    This MFer is back?

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    This is a joke.

    McIntyre is better than Rubio

    Lakovic is better than Rubio

    Holden is better than Rubio

    Prigioni is better than Rubio

    Lull is better than Rubio

    Planinic is better than Rubio

    McCalebb is better than Rubio

    Logan is better than Rubio

    M Popovich is better than Rubio

    Jamont Gordon is better than Rubio

    Roko Ukic is better than Rubio

    Jaric is better than Rubio

    Washington is better than Rubio

    Charalabidis is better than Rubio

    Zisis, Cabezas, Ribas, Huertas, Keys, Jaaber, Wisniewski, Beverly, Rasic, Cook are in general about the same level , some a little better than him, the same, or a little worse.

    I am only even mentioning Euroleague and Eurocup point guards that come to mind.

    And Rubio is only a little bit better than Batis, Papamakarios, N Calathes, Lopez and players like that. Sure he is much better than Sada and guys in that level but big deal.

    If you really believe he is better than all these other players it is 100% and simple fact that you do not know anything about these other players and probably have never even seen them play. Because many of them are much MUCH better than Rubio in this time.

    In a club like Siena, Olympiacos, I doubt if he would even see the court to be honest. He is one of the best European point guard ever for his age but this other talk is just a dream world of imaginary NBA BS. If NBA fans are so much full of such crazy delusions about how good Rubio really is then he will be the biggest bust of NBA history.

    You are expecting a basketball god and he is just a good player.
    If Rubio had no offensive game whatsoever, his defense alone would make him better than 90% of that list. J.R. Holden??? Get the f.... outta here!

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    KBP's hate for Rubio is truly pathological. The guy changed from a pro-Spanoulis obsession to an anti-Rubio one.

    endrity, I think McIntyre is in the conversation for best PG in Europe. Where are you from?

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    Yeah I agree with McIntyre, he belongs in the conversation, but I think Rubio is a bit better already. Someone might still put Prigioni and Lakovic in there, I wouldn't be surprised with that either.

    I was born in Albania, raised there and Italy later, did my undergraduate in the US, and I am currently doing a post-grad degree in London. So a bit from all over.

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