Man Shot In Head At Quarry Market Dies

[Useruser666]

no one is 'siding with the criminal' fellas.

the constable ed up by putting himself in a position to get his hand caught in the first place. he's shot and the suspect is dead because of it.

it's over now, but i doubt law enforcement will be using this case as an example of "what to do when you catch a pervert in the parking lot" anytime soon.

How do you know the cop screwed up? Has every cop that has gotten shot or attacked, screwed up? This case is a perfect example of how dangerous it is to be a cop and how anything can happen at anytime.

[The Ressurrected One]

Reasons not to Masturbate:
1. You'll go blind
2. You'll grow hair on your palms
3. A cop will shoot you in the head

You seem particularly captivated by what he was doing when the constable approached as opposed to what he was doing when the constable shot him.

I'm sensing a theme in all your posts today Bandit...

[King]

For what it's worth, here's his porter loring obituary. The married with a young child makes it so much stranger.

http://obit.porterloring.com/obit_di...isting=Current

And while I doubt I need to say this, nobody be an ass and post in the guestbook.

[bigzak25]

user, i agree that a cops job is undoubtedly tough and dangerously unpredictable.

this is in fact why i think the constable made an error.

from what i've read, and i've only read the article, the fact is, the cop got his hand caught.

from what i've seen on cops and such, cuz i don't have any law enforcement experience, the suspects are always told to keep hands where they can see them. turn off the vehicle. sometimes to step out of the vehicle.

if failure to comply? backup should be called. why? because this job is dangerously unpredictable and you are not to take chances unless you feel that there is immenent danger to the public. if facts come out that this was the case, i'll gladly retract.

i think it was an error in judgement on the officers part to approach and try to get access to the inside of the vehicle.

was he wrong to shoot the suspect after the fact? not at all.

[Useruser666]

i don't see how, in a confrontation involving an armed police officer vs. a guy in a car, that the situation can end up with the officer with a self-inflicted gunshot wound and the other guy with a bullet in the head than if Somehow (try to wrap your mind around this one neo-cons) the police officer ed up.

Then how did the cop up?

[Useruser666]

user, i agree that a cops job is undoubtedly tough and dangerously unpredictable.

this is in fact why i think the constable made an error.

from what i've read, and i've only read the article, the fact is, the cop got his hand caught.

from what i've seen on cops and such, cuz i don't have any law enforcement experience, the suspects are always told to keep hands where they can see them. turn off the vehicle. sometimes to step out of the vehicle.

if failure to comply? backup should be called. why? because this job is dangerously unpredictable and you are not to take chances unless you feel that there is immenent danger to the public. if facts come out that this was the case, i'll gladly retract.

i think it was an error in judgement on the officers part to approach and try to get access to the inside of the vehicle.

was he wrong to shoot the suspect after the fact? not at all.

I understand what you are saying about procedure. But I don't know from what I've heard that he didn't follow procedure. Cops ask people to step out of their vehicles all the time. When people don't follow instructions they usually use different tactics or more force. I'm sure more info will come out about this after an investigation.

[SpursWoman]

For what it's worth, here's his porter loring obituary. The married with a young child makes it so much stranger.

http://obit.porterloring.com/obit_di...isting=Current

And while I doubt I need to say this, nobody be an ass and post in the guestbook.

He looks really, really familiar.....

[Extra Stout]

We should keep in mind that this was a constable and not a police officer.

Constables are elected officials. They do not necessarily have really good training in law enforcement.

[The Ressurrected One]

We should keep in mind that this was a constable and not a police officer.

Constables are elected officials. They do not necessarily have really good training in law enforcement.

Was he 'the' Constable? Or an officer in the Constable's office. Because, these days, most officers -- except for the actual elected ones (Sheriff, Constable, Marshall, etc...) -- have law enforcement training; including those serving under a Constable.

But, you do raise a valid point.

[The Ressurrected One]

He looks really, really familiar.....

Ruh Ro Rastro!

Actually, he looks like a grown-up Ernie from "My Three Sons." Beautiful family...how sad for them.

[The Ressurrected One]

Bizarre incident at Quarry leads to death

Green was charged with indecent exposure in 2002 and then received deferred adjudication, wiping the charge from his record after serving probation. A second 2002 indecency exposure charge, involving a child, was dismissed.

What if this constable ended the life of a future child molester/predator? Not a bad deal, if you ask me.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Another shooting in the Quarry parking lot, this one just after midnight, took a man's life in February 2002.

Virginia Garza, 40, was walking out of Bally's gym at the Quarry that night in 2002 when she ran into the crime scene and on Friday she was walking out of a movie with her daughter when she saw the circle of tape and throng of police cars.

"Oh no, not again," she thought.

Sounds like Ms. Garza needs to stay the away from the Quarry.

[SpursWoman]

Sounds like Ms. Garza needs to stay the away from the Quarry.

That's my gym, too.....I guess there is some justification for not going for a while.


But unless she works there, they close at 11:00.

[Gatita]

Poor guy. Saw a pic of him and his family. I feel bad for them. It was a shameful way to die.

[MannyIsGod]

Big Zak, you get it. Some people in here just don't.

[MannyIsGod]

I have a question for some of you.

What would be the better scenario:

A. What actually happend

or

B. The Cop never puts himself in a position to get his hand caught. In fact, the officer pulls his gun on the suspect, asks him to get out, but the man just flees. He gets away clean except that the constable wrote down his plate number. No one dies, no one gets shot, but the suspect does get away.


So, which one is better?

[Clandestino]

i love it how manny is always is pro-criminal.

[The Ressurrected One]

I have a question for some of you.

What would be the better scenario:

A. What actually happend

or

B. The Cop never puts himself in a position to get his hand caught. In fact, the officer pulls his gun on the suspect, asks him to get out, but the man just flees. He gets away clean except that the constable wrote down his plate number. No one dies, no one gets shot, but the suspect does get away.


So, which one is better?

Well, seeing as how most officers would be royally raked over the coals of public opinion if they drew down on a misdemeanor suspect, I'd say your scenario #2 is unrealistic and unlikely.

Which, incidentally, leaves us with Option "A." since you didn't provide a third hypothetical.

[MannyIsGod]

Officers draw their weaspons in misdomeanor traffic stops all the time. But I don't expect you to actualy say what should be said. I expect you to squirm your way to something else, like that.

Oh, and I love it how Clandestino lacks the sixth grade reading comprehension nessecary to understand the difference between being on the criminals side and thinking the cop made a mistake. You're either with us or against us, right?

[Clandestino]

Officers draw their weaspons in misdomeanor traffic stops all the time. But I don't expect you to actualy say what should be said. I expect you to squirm your way to something else, like that.

Oh, and I love it how Clandestino lacks the sixth grade reading comprehension nessecary to understand the difference between being on the criminals side and thinking the cop made a mistake. You're either with us or against us, right?

and i love manny's college reading level, but 3rd grade spelling level!

[The Ressurrected One]

Officers draw their weaspons in misdomeanor traffic stops all the time.

That would be ridiculously irresponsible. I think you need to check with your local law enforcement agency and see if that's SOP; because, if it's the case in San Antonio, it's amazing you don't have at least 1 officer-involved shooting a day.

But I don't expect you to actualy say what should be said. I expect you to squirm your way to something else, like that.

So, what should be said? That the officer did what he felt was necessary to preserve his own life and to prevent the fleeing felon from harming anyone else? Mission accomplished.

Oh, and I love it how Clandestino lacks the sixth grade reading comprehension nessecary to understand the difference between being on the criminals side and thinking the cop made a mistake. You're either with us or against us, right?

Well, that's an equally sop ric response...if not more so. I think it could be said that you've expressed more compassion toward the deceased than the officer...you've certainly let your doubt bias you toward wrongdoing on the officer's part as opposed to that of the masturbator.

[MasterYoda]

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[Bandit2981]

i used to think Manny was a pretty cool guy, but thanks to this forum and such intelligent posters as Clandestino and The Ressurrected One, i now realize Manny is anti-american, pro-terrorist, pro-criminal, anti-police, and hates the military! he had been fooling me the whole time!

[Clandestino]

i used to think Manny was a pretty cool guy, but thanks to this forum and such intelligent posters as Clandestino and The Ressurrected One, i now realize Manny is anti-american, pro-terrorist, pro-criminal, anti-police, and hates the military! he had been fooling me the whole time!

what took you so long?

[The Ressurrected One]

i used to think Manny was a pretty cool guy, but thanks to this forum and such intelligent posters as Clandestino and The Ressurrected One, i now realize Manny is anti-american, pro-terrorist, pro-criminal, anti-police, and hates the military! he had been fooling me the whole time!

Well, you know what they say,..."Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice..."