Repug majority nutters and Obama's Muslimism

[LnGrrrR]

I don't know what to think. The automatic response would have been to clarify that the topic was people assuming he was Muslim, and that's why he said Muslim instead of Christian. Him agreeing with the correction doesn't add up.

But he DID automatically clarify. Look at what he said directly after his momentary confusion.

"My Christian faith... well, what I'm saying is..."

"... that he hasn't suggested I'm a Muslim, and I think that his upper echelon campaign managers haven't either. What I think is fair to say is that coming out of the Republican camp, there have been efforts to suggest that I am what I say I am when it comes to my faith, something which I find deeply offensive, and that has been going on for a long time."

How much more clearly can he put it? He DOES clarify, saying he thinks John McCain hasn't called him a Muslim, but others in the Republican camp have tried to paint him as one.

[Winehole23]

Let's not forget that, because Democrats are less likely to call themselves Christian than Republicans are, they would be less likely to see a lack of Christian faith by a President as a bad thing.

I know, like, WHOA!

To be completely clear, there exist traditionally reverent people who see the value of secular government, too.

[Winehole23]

Why is he eating pork and drinking beer?

Perhaps Rahm assured him it was halal.

[RandomGuy]

It's just as disturbing that Huffpo chose to adapt the Fox News model of information dissemination.

Agreed.

Liberals are usually better at not going that route, IMO.

On the other hand, perhaps it is time to counter the landslide of bull being thrust on people by Fox et al. with (gasp) an opposing viewpoint.

[TeyshaBlue]

Agreed.

Liberals are usually better at not going that route, IMO.

On the other hand, perhaps it is time to counter the landslide of bull being thrust on people by Fox et al. with (gasp) an opposing viewpoint.

Intellectual dishonesty is still intellectual dishonesty. I was unaware there was an acceptable rationale or threshold for it.

[LnGrrrR]

Intellectual dishonesty is still intellectual dishonesty. I was unaware there was an acceptable rationale or threshold for it.

Well, if you're of the opinion that most Americans are idiots, and only listen to the facts that confirm their own bias (instead of using their reasoning), then you might think it acceptable to "massage" their opinion to the proper one in order to accomplish (what you think) are necessary policies that need to be enacted.

[DarrinS]

Fuel for the fire...


Obama is Not a Muslim


http://townhall.com/columnists/AnnCo...lim/page/full/

The nonsense about President Obama being a Muslim has got to stop. I rise to defend him from this absurd accusation by pointing out that he is obviously an atheist.

Leave aside Obama's fanatical opposition to allowing Illinois hospitals to save the lives of babies with God-given souls inadvertently born alive during abortions. Also leave aside the fact that neither of his parents were Christians. And leave aside his current crop of "spiritual advisers," which is a collection of Mother Earth worshippers, polytheists and other nonbelievers.

Now rest from all that "leaving aside."

The only evidence for Obama's Christianity is that he faithfully attended the Rev. Jeremiah Wright's Trinity United Church of Christ for 20 years.

Yes, the guy bellowing "God damn America!" is the one vouching for Obama's Christianity. That's like saying you got sober with the help of your A.A. sponsor Lindsay Lohan.

It is a fact that any non-re ed person (thank you, Rahm Emanuel!) sitting in the Rev. Wright's church for 20 minutes, much less 20 years, does not believe in God. Even stepping inside Wright's church for a moment to get out of the rain is borderline racist.

Going to Trinity United Church of Christ is even stronger evidence of nonbelief than Bill Clinton returning from Sunday services to receive oral sex from Monica Lewinsky. This isn't mere sin -- everybody sins (though some with more frequency and less remorse than others).

Attending Wright's church is the conscious, calculated decision to immerse yourself in hate-filled demagoguery and call it "Christianity."

But according to North Korean TV's Chris Matthews, it is a provable, scientific fact that Obama is a Christian because he says so. "Everybody watching right now," Matthews said to his several viewers last week, "gets credit for being of the religion you say you are. ... We accept that in America. It's called freedom of religion and respect for religion."

That would make professions of religious belief, unlike all other self-professions, unchallengeable. Liberals say conservatives don't believe in civil rights. I say liberals are godless traitors. Why is one statement debatable and the other not?

Doesn't anyone question the Christianity of Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker? How about the Satanists claiming to be Christians who stand outside soldiers' funerals with signs that say "God Hates s"?

And, for the record, the allegedly inviolate assertion of one's own religious belief wasn't so inviolate when it came to Ronald Reagan.

Tip O'Neill used to question President Reagan's Christianity all the time, taunting the president for not attending church regularly. Matthews might remember that: He was working for O'Neill at the time.

In fact, parading to church in front of the TV cameras carrying a 10-pound Bible -- like a certain serial adulterer, impeached president I could name -- is strongly discouraged by the creator of the universe. ("Beware of practicing your righteousness before men to be noticed by them; otherwise you have no reward with your Father who is in heaven." Matthew 6.1)

Some conservatives have cited Obama's near complete refusal to go to church to suggest he's not the "devout Christian" who "prays every day" as the White House claims.

But that's not your proof, Christians. To the contrary, it's Obama's church attendance -- back in Chicago -- that proves he's an atheist.

This was inadvertently admitted by Obama's leading butt-boy, Richard Wolffe, on North Korean TV Monday night. Wolffe acknowledged that Wright's liberation theology was not Christianity, but then forcefully distinguished Obama from the Rev. Wright –- i.e., Obama's sole character witness for his alleged Christianity.

Of Glenn Beck's denunciation of liberation theology as a false religion, Wolffe said: "Is he debating Jeremiah Wright or Barack Obama? They're two different people. If he wants to debate liberation theology with Wright, he's got something to talk about. But liberation theology hasn't been anything espoused by this president."

But it was espoused in the only church Obama ever attended regularly -- for 20 years, no less -- was married in and had his daughters baptized in. The le of Obama's autobiography came from the le of one of Wright's sermons and snippets from Wright's sermons have appeared in Obama's work.

So the sole evidence of Obama's supposed Christianity is his longtime pastor, who everyone admits is a racist nut.

No sentient human is required to take Obama's profession of Christianity any more seriously than if it were coming from a 1980s blow-dried, money-grubbing televangelist with a mistress on the side.

All liberals are atheists. Only the ones who have to stand for election even bother pretending to believe in God.

Not being acquainted with any actual Christians, they aren't particularly good bluffers. That's why Democrats babble incoherently whenever the subject of religion comes up. Liberals acting devout always looks like the love scenes between Tom Cruise and Kelly McGillis in "Top Gun": awkward and unconvincing.

Former divinity student Al Gore famously botched a biblical verse, switching God's instruction that we put heaven before earthly things ("For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also," Matthew 6:21) by saying we should make the Earth our treasure. (In the druidical religion of liberalism, not separating your recyclables is a sin, but abortion is just a medical procedure.)

Howard Dean told a reporter his favorite book of the New Testament was Job.

It took the Democrats' born-again Christian Jimmy Carter three decades to announce, in 2005, that he didn't think Jesus would approve of abortion ("unless the mother's life or health was in danger or perhaps the pregnancy was caused by rape or incest," etc. etc.).

There's only one true Christian liberal in the country and that's Mike Huckabee.

[LnGrrrR]

As I said before, unless you're praying loudly and often in public, then you're not a Christian, right?

And the guy bellowing "Got Damn America" was doing it in a uniquely Christian way, by pointing out that it's not very Christian to start wars with other countries. It's the one thing he somewhat got right, that many "Christians" today don't. (Anyone who follows the Jesus = Warrior thing has serious issues.)

I'd ask "What's so wrong with not believing in God?", but since there is, I think, a total of ONE proclaimed atheist in all of Congress, it's certainly not that hard to figure out that there are more non-religious types. (Atheists make up around 6-8% of the American population last I checked.)

[ChumpDumper]

Fuel for the fire...

What fire?

Anyone who takes that Coulter dude seriously and takes the time to bold statements like "butt-boy" has a different kind of fire burning down below.

[TeyshaBlue]

Well, if you're of the opinion that most Americans are idiots, and only listen to the facts that confirm their own bias (instead of using their reasoning), then you might think it acceptable to "massage" their opinion to the proper one in order to accomplish (what you think) are necessary policies that need to be enacted.

Well, I haven't gone completely down that path...yet. My cynicism waxes more than it wanes these days tho.

[AFBlue]

Well, if you're of the opinion that most Americans are idiots, and only listen to the facts that confirm their own bias (instead of using their reasoning), then you might think it acceptable to "massage" their opinion to the proper one in order to accomplish (what you think) are necessary policies that need to be enacted.

Everyone is guilty of looking at situations from their own viewpoint and then choosing the information with which to re-inforce it...building a box and then finding stuff to put in it. It's human nature, not something constrained to idiots or Americans.

[Winehole23]

It's human nature, not something constrained to idiots or Americans.

Certainly not but that doesn't excuse it (from the standpoint of rationality.)

Quite the contrary, it implies it.

[boutons_deux]

"total of ONE proclaimed atheist in all of Congress"

because Americans apply an uncons utional "religious test" to hold office. If you're not a Christian, you're out. If you're a Jew, you better run where there are lots of Jewish voters. Else, don't bother, you've failed the "religious test".

[Winehole23]

Piffle.