If Nature turned every animal against us would we survive?

[ALVAREZ6]

I mean, if every rhino and elephant came charging at whatever human strongholds we had, don't you think that would fall?

I mean, if every rhino and elephant (btw, there aren't even that many of either of these creatures when put into perspective, they're endangered) came charging at whatever human strongholds we had, don't you think humans could blast them away with rocket launchers, heavy machine guns, and other explosives?

LOL, even without these weapons, humans can easily build massive stone structures that no animal would be able to touch. Nothing new really. The romans could have done so also.

[BlairForceDejuan]

Ants alone would take humans down. It's not even a contest.

Pesticide son.

I will concede the fact that the quadrillion of insects could do some massive damage, however you are all forgetting humanity's trump card.

[IronMaxipad]

Pesticide son.

insects cannot be fully destroyed
over several generations (couple of weeks in insect terms lol) they evolve resistances to every pesticide you use on them

example
1) pesticide "antkill" is used

2) 99% out of a billion ants are killed by it 1 % is somehow immune

3) the offspring of that 1% get the immune trait from their parents and in no time you have another billion ants who don't give a about "antkill"

4) develop something else-----------------------> and back to step 2 until infinity

GG humanity.

[TheManFromAcme]

Don't screw with the chimps.........

[eisfeld]

Animals: Survice
Insects: Die

[ShoogarBear]

Bacteria pimping virii?

Hype Bacteria E. coli

[CubanSucks]

THE INSECTS! If we could somehow make a compromise with the animals then we could create a coalition and all stomp the out of those little bas s. Or we could just off ourselves along with the rest of the planet with the push of the big nuclear button so at least those little ers can't enjoy it after we're gone

[pawe]

Move out to the moon. Nuke earth. Come back and enjoy the mountains of meat grilled behind.

[Nathan Explosion]

insects cannot be fully destroyed
over several generations (couple of weeks in insect terms lol) they evolve resistances to every pesticide you use on them

example
1) pesticide "antkill" is used

2) 99% out of a billion ants are killed by it 1 % is somehow immune

3) the offspring of that 1% get the immune trait from their parents and in no time you have another billion ants who don't give a about "antkill"

4) develop something else-----------------------> and back to step 2 until infinity

GG humanity.

So when do they develop the immunity to being set on fire?

Move out to the moon. Nuke earth. Come back and enjoy the mountains of meat grilled behind.

Already suggested that.

Back to this zombie thing, there are two set of cir stances that have to be discussed before coming up with a plan.

One, if we're talking short term invasion like Shaun of the Dead, then an HEB or better yet, Walmart might be your best bet. Lots of food, coolers and freezers to keep food edible for weeks, beds, sofas, entertainment and of course lots of guns, knives and ammo. You could do a lot worse than hiding out in a Walmart. Just barricade all the doors and you're set.

If we're talking long term like Zombieland/28 Days later, then I definitely suggest farm estate (at least 2 stories) with lots of open land. You can set up a perimeter, farm your land, and see any zombie coming from a distance from the highest point in your house. You'd almost never get caught by surprise.

Or if you're in England, take up residence in a castle, make sure the moat has water and there you go.

But I'd want to live in France if there was a zombie invasion. I defintely know where I'd go to live.

[Nathan Explosion]

your zombie tangent isn't interesting

It wasn't directed at you, so you really didn't have to read it. It was directed to this guy.

Best realistic place or best "ideal" situation?

Realistically, it all depends on how much access you have to your own source of food, and how intelligent the zombies are. If you can grow your own food and they don't realize that food = humans, then way out in the country far away from civilization, preferably off the grid.