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Your sun is setting too. Kobe aint gettin any younger, or passing the ball
Don't buy into it Cul.
Lakeshow run isn't over and they know. Why is it that they are so fascinated and obsessed with it? I'll tell ya; it's because their demise is certified.
Our sunrise is guaranteed. They won a LOB 4 years ago. They are done. Lakers got it 11 months ago.
Your sun is setting too. Kobe aint gettin any younger, or passing the ball
What, me worry?
IMHO, unless the Lakers get either Noah or Howard back (i.e. a defensive big), a trade should not be made. However, I think Fisher is absolutely killing them, providing limited offense and zero defense. They need a pure shooter for the triangle (assuming they still run that with the next coach). For example, Ben Gordon. I have no idea how they would acquire a guy like that, but that is what they need IMHO...
nah.......
Just need a "serviceable" Kobe. Don't need a 27-28 year old Kobe these days.
He's on the downswing of his peak but in the peak nonetheless.
Keep thinkiing otherwise basketball fans.
Kobe's nowhere near his peak. And his prime ended years ago, though he's dropping from such a high place that he's still a top 6-10 player.
I want to see what the summer off does for him. He won't have surgery, and he said he can just focus on strengthening the knee instead of recovering from the injury. I think he'll look better next season.
Kobe Bryant: NO TRADE CLAUSE
Lakers = ed
agree, to an extent. he's still elite or a tad below elite but to put him at 6-10 top player means that his decline is not as significant as you think.
he's just right there where the graph just begins to slope and nowhere near the base.
With the trio of biggs the Lakers have on the roster right now, there is no need for Kobe to be great. Very good, perhaps, but not great.Kobe Bryant: NO TRADE CLAUSE
They need to fill their gaping hole at PG. They need some kind of depth at SF...
Guards are a dime-a-dozen. Almost any NBA guard is better than D-Fish right now. Almost and NBA SF currently on a roster would provide some relief for the SF situation (should that SF get PT).
Good take Jacob
Please forward your comments to other nimrods in this thread that insist that this is not the case.
Cully?
..would that be Brian Piccolo (sp?)
explain the reference.....
NBA where almost anything will get you a championship.
wake up. almost anything MIGHT make the lakers a better team. But they got bukkaked in 4 games by Dallas. Almost anything will not make them anywhere near championship caliber
they would need a superstar a la CP3, Deron to resurrect them.(which is not gonna happen) Otherwise it's Holocaust v. 2.0 and so on
you keep telling yourself that....
NBA where almost anything will get you a championship.
wake up. almost anything MIGHT make the lakers a better team. But they got bukkaked in 4 games by Dallas. Almost anything will not make them anywhere near championship caliber
they would need a superstar a la CP3, Deron to resurrect them.(which is not gonna happen) Otherwise it's Holocaust v. 2.0 and so on
you are making it sound like the Dallas series was the proverbial last nail in the coffin when in fact it's not. quite frustrating, if you ask me...
your just hatin to hate that's all.
for every article and analysis you read defining the Lakers ultiamte demise, there are 5 after that one that conclude a re-tooling is all that is needed from better b-ball minds than yours or mine.
just stop
Really, the Lakers biggest problem right now might be finding a coach that knows how to teach good defense, be patient with Bynum/Artest when they do stupid , and still be competent enough to get the team to flow together and work well within an offensive scheme.you keep telling yourself that....
you are making it sound like the Dallas series was the proverbial last nail in the coffin when in fact it's not. quite frustrating, if you ask me...
your just hatin to hate that's all.
for every article and analysis you read defining the Lakers ultiamte demise, there are 5 after that one that conclude a re-tooling is all that is needed from better b-ball minds than yours or mine.
just stop
The Lakers are far from done. They aren't a sinking ship by any means. However, the kitchen/crew quarters are on fire and they don't exactly have ballast control right now. It's a pretty tedious situation unless they can make a huge trade.
what retooling? use your logic. Jackson is gone. Fisher is washed up, Kobe is only good for 1 series tops, Artest is a s of himself, So is Pau. Bynum is more mediocre/injured than good. Barnes/Brown/Blake and the rest of the bench(except Odom) are the laughingstock of the league. Most have ridiculous salaries so itd be hard to trade them.you keep telling yourself that....
you are making it sound like the Dallas series was the proverbial last nail in the coffin when in fact it's not. quite frustrating, if you ask me...
your just hatin to hate that's all.
for every article and analysis you read defining the Lakers ultiamte demise, there are 5 after that one that conclude a re-tooling is all that is needed from better b-ball minds than yours or mine.
just stop
those above are FACTS. not assumptions. FACTS.
Now, even in the best case scenario where Pau gets back his groove. This team still not smelling WCF next year.
All lakerfans can hang onto is some delusional trade scenarios. Fine whatever helps you sleep at night. But when reality arises and next season comes along and the same sorry ass team trots down the court led by geriatric Fisher and arthritic bag of Kobe. It will probably finally sink in, the Lakers are done.
The Lakers were a very high seed in the Regular Season. They have had great success (3 straight finals appearances, the last 2 ending as champions) in the Post Season, until this season with a very similar roster. Obviously age is a factor for all people/players, however, not every player on the Lakers are geriatrics.
NBA where almost anything will get you a championship.
wake up. almost anything MIGHT make the lakers a better team. But they got bukkaked in 4 games by Dallas. Almost anything will not make them anywhere near championship caliber
they would need a superstar a la CP3, Deron to resurrect them.(which is not gonna happen) Otherwise it's Holocaust v. 2.0 and so on
Kobe played adequately. Pau played below his level, but that is more of an aberration to his career. Everyone has slumps. The other bigs played adequately/well.
The fact remains that while D-Fish may have had 'something' in the tank last season, his team-mates were a bit younger, and could still cover for him because of the dominence of the bigmen and the fundimental workings of the Triangle offense...
HOWEVER, the age has cause the other players to slip. There is NO EXCUSE the Lakers can't replace D-Fish with some rookie/minimum contract platyer from the D-League. At least they would get some defense out of the PG position, and maybe even some athleticism that would have greatly reduced the pressure on Kobe/Pau/Artest/Odom/Bynum...
AND P-Jax, (unlike some other coaches) generally develops his bench, even when they are less talented than that of other teams...
They need to fill the hole at PG. Plain and simple. It is so glaringly obvious. Had ANYONE with a PULSE played for D-Fish against Dallas, they would have made it a series... The Lakers were playing 4-on-5 and still made it to the 2nd round...
In a 7 game series, a quality coach with good talent can exploit glaring holes you wouldn't otherwise be able to examine in a regular season match-up over an 82 game season...
where did you read or from what source did you get that Kobe was good for 1 more series? Really che? generate the source (s) and I'll lay off
delusional Laker fans? I can't take away the series with Dallas. They slapped us silly and that's that. Throw the pie at my face but they were not the better team. sorry.
If any fan of any team has reasons to be optimistic for off-season "magical" trades, it's Laker fan. Don't get mad, those things just happen.
Against the Hornets? More like playing 4 on 2 with what that team could bring to the table.
see 2011 playoffs
Tim Duncan = NO "NO TRADE CLAUSE"Kobe Bryant: NO TRADE CLAUSE
Spurs = still wont trade him
Lol trade him for what? Kobe will be making 30 million dollars late into his 30'sTim Duncan = NO "NO TRADE CLAUSE"
Spurs = still wont trade him
how in-depth of you....
Perhaps another coach can get something from Barnes (if he picks his option) and Blake, those are serviceable bench players. Fisher is a liability on defense, but he's like Horry, and will be very difficult to replace adequately. He will be useful as second or third string PG.
SF rotation isn't bad with Artest, Barnes and Walton.
If Stern doesn't help the Lakers again, and if Howard doesn't demand to be traded for LA, as 'Melo forced the trade with the Knicks, it will be difficult for the Lakers to arrange a trade and still be good. Bynum, Gasol and Odom are still relatively young and by far the best bigman rotation in the league. However, Gasol seems to be too psychologically sensitive perhaps he will never recover the all-star form. He and Kobe make difference for the Lakers when the things get difficult.
Despite being over the cap, the Lakers have many options to land a better PG:
- They have many scouts and tend to pick good players in the draft.
- They have the trade exception from the VJJ trade.
- And they could use the MLE.
- Or arrange a trade.
The Mavs clearly outclassed the Lakers and that was without Butler, their starting SF, and a good bench player 'Bois. The Mavs will suffer when their superstar loses a step, since they have only one, right now whenever the Mavs really need to score they can go with Dirk and he always gets the points. And he's 33, as Kobe. The Lakers don't have a true superstar after Kobe, but with him differing more to the Lakers bigs will be a good thing for that team, because those players score with 1.50 points per FGA efficiency.
Matt Barnes Key PlayerAll the Lakers have to do is trade the Big Spanish Vag and they'll be good for another 2-3 Finals appearances.
The Spurs and Celtics though?
The only trade-able assest the Spurs have is a sex criminal getting paid minimal money. Good luck with that.
Kobe best in league still
Bynum finally healthy lakers get swept
Backdoor-sweep
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