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Most intelligent thing I've read all day. This was the point I was REALLY trying to make. It wasn't to bag on Sheed. But I knew this would bring out the Piston fans and other Tim-haters.
luckily, just rest.I'm just saying that some fans would be all over him here for that. Is he gonna need surgery or just rest?
Most intelligent thing I've read all day. This was the point I was REALLY trying to make. It wasn't to bag on Sheed. But I knew this would bring out the Piston fans and other Tim-haters.
Duncan is playing AWESOME this series.
It's just those FT's are overshadowing everything else.
I don't think he needs surgery, just a period of continous rest. The ankle sprain wasn't your run of the smill sprain, there was severe damage to the tissue around it. It looked ugly as weeks after it happend as if it wasn't getting better at all.
Still though, I know detroit has injuries as well. I'm not sure if any are as limiting as this, but thats the way the ball bounces and they've dealt with it.
you, you miserable piece of ...
nice.
Line 'em up and choose teams for game 7 and I'd bet Tim would still be the first choice.
more evidence piston fan smokes ass crack.
Chauncey's automatic from free throw line - I'd take him in a heartbeat.
even more.
Shaq wasn't bagged on because of his heart for sitting out against a team he didn't need to play against because it was the SMART thing to do. If you''re going to compare it to something compare it to D Wade sitting out in Game 6, I will always question his heart because of that now. Superstars don't sit out those kinds of games. If he could play in Game 7, he could have played in Game 6.
I don't question Tim's heart though, I question his agressiveness, they are 2 different things. He will NEVER NEVER be as dominant as Shaq is. He doesn't like Contact, and that really sucks due to the posiiton he plays.
The Difference is when we have depended on Sheed for a Big Game or a Big Shot, he has ALWAYS delivered for us. That is all we ask of him. Duncan is your so called "Superstar"...Sheed is our 3rd option. That is a difference. We can live with a 10Point output from Sheed, you can't live with that from Duncan.
Last edited by combs84; 06-23-2005 at 03:23 PM.
Why wasn't Shaq's heart questioned for grabbing 7.5 rebounds per game in the series when he did play?Shaq wasn't bagged on because of his heart for sitting out against a team he didn't need to play against because it was the SMART thing to do. If you''re going to compare it to something compare it to D Wade sitting out in Game 6, I will always question his heart because of that now. Superstars don not sit out those kinds of games. If he could play in Game 7, he could have played in Game 6.
I don't question Tim's heeart though, I question his agressiveness, they are 2 different things. He will NEVER NEVER be as dominant as Shaq is. He doesn't like Contact, and that really sucks due to the posiiton he plays.
The Difference is when we have depended on Sheed for a Big Game or a Big Shot, he has ALWAYS delivered for us. That is all we ask of him. Duncan is your so called "Superstar"...Sheed is our 3rd option. That is a difference. We can live with a 10Point output from Sheed, you can't live with that from Duncan.
it... I just hope Duncan gets 40/20 tonight to erase all doubt.
Shaq destroyed us in every way possible, I watch the games, Duncan isn't anywhere close to doing that. Shaq scored at will, dished out to teammates for open threes and packed anything we brought into the lane. We had to double him to have any kind of chance of stopping him. Nobody questioned his heart because he straight up dominated us.
Probably due to his injury?
But injuries aren't excuses. Seems to be the precedent.
When it comes to "heart" it doesn't much matter at all what your statline is for the game or the series it's what you do when it matters most. Duncan has dissapeared in the clutch. I don't care if he puts up 50-30... if he's invisible in the last 5 mins and his team loses--no heart.
When he's not having a vanishing act he's having emotional "shrinkage" ... that scene of him sitting on the bench looking like he was going to cry while Pop consoled him was pathetic. Stuff like that is why people question his heart.
How about the way he seizes up on the freethrow line with the game in the balance? As charles barkley would say, you couldn't get a pen up his ass with a jackhammer. Bricklaying from the stripe with the game on the line: heartless.
Duncan has prodigal skill and will always put up gaudy, all-world numbers but in the end he lacks a certain something. Maybe it's heart, maybe it's something else.
Glad you qualified that, because it's all that really matters. If Duncan plays the same exact game in Game 6 and Detroit misses a few more shots... nobody questions Tim's heart. They talk about how he came out in attack mode and show replays of him taking it right to the basket against Rasheed in the fourth. Which is why it's all bull . It's an easy ESPN generation cop-out.if he's invisible in the last 5 mins and his team loses--no heart.
I'm sorry, but they way those 3 are moving, it can't be that serious.
Kind of like Manu's thigh contusion. I'm sure it's effecting his play a little, but not enough for an excuse.
And obviously, Tim's ankles can only be an excuse for this thing going to 7, because we're winning this tonight!
Tim will silence all critics tonight.
Hey, will the Pistons hand over thier stupid WWF belts when they lose tonight?
Nevermind. The Spurs are too classy and mature to wear such BS trophy bling.
I think both Sheed and Tim have as much heart as anyone in the league. It expresses itself differently-- Tim has the type of heart that allows one to be excellent game in and game out, Sheed the type that needs emotion-- a back to the wall game a tech (few people realize that the year he set the record for techs he promised he would in advance-- he knew the helped his play). Myself I think Sheed is by far the most important player on the world champs. They just wouldn't have the grit without him. Role player- not.
The stuff about Tim having heart is just silly-- he's in a battle with with people of similar ability and everyone is giving their all. If he loses the battle his heart won't be the reason. And the war will continue next year.
I qualified it because a win sweeps it under the rug. Look at game 5--Duncan shriveled up and died down the stretch but it was glossed over by Horry's bailout.
Yeah, Tim had a bad fourth quarter. Kind of like the entire Piston team did in Game 1 and 2.
Fact: Spurs are never in a position to win Game 5, if Tim didn't have such a monster 28 pt, 19 reb. night. Horry may have save us late, but Tim was the one that kept us in the game to begin with.
Tim's had bad 4Q's in games 3-6 ... that's a trend, not an accident... I know it's tough for you to do with your Black and Silver glasses on, but for once credit the Pistons Defense - Wallaces and McDyess have swarmed him and he admitted as much in Press Conference following game 6.
Yeah, Tim had a bad fourth quarter. Kind of like the entire Piston team did in Game 1 and 2.
Fact: Spurs are never in a position to win Game 5, if Tim didn't have such a monster 28 pt, 19 reb. night. Horry may have save us late, but Tim was the one that kept us in the game to begin with.
I can't believe Piston fans have less respect for Duncan than they do for Shaq.
I just hope Ducan makes you all eat your words tonight. No better revenge than winning.
For the record, there's no way Tim can play Shaq style, because:
a) the refs would call offensive foul and Tim would foul out
b) i think Shaq has like 100 lbs on Tim?
And it's not like the Pistons are playing Tim one-on-one. Most times, one of the Wallaces comes to help, and that's when Tim gets hacked and/or stripped.
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