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  1. #51
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    I don't see the financial advantage for Florida State to move, even in 3 years.

    I also wonder why there is little to no talk about Miami moving as well. Are they happy being in the ACC?
    Miami's side of the story is academics, for whatever that's worth.

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    Miami was told in confidence that they were not invited so they came out publically and said they weren't interested.

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    Is this before or after USC leaves the Pac for another conference?
    aggsy will equal nothing more than an ankle biter

    But to answer your question

    Everything depends on this new playoff system, if it is based on top 4 regardless of conference then who cares, but if it is based on conference champions, then the conferences will remain strong and you will see the status quo.

    What aggsy doesn't want to see is that the whole conference setup is nothing more than a leach on the few big time schools like Texas Oklahoma USC Alabama Florida etc etc etc

    When schools start to figure out that having their own network to some degree is going to make them a bunch more money that they don't have to share. You will see USC tOSU and Michigan head for the hills

  4. #54
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    aggsy will equal nothing more than an ankle biter
    How disheartening.

    But to answer your question

    Everything depends on this new playoff system, if it is based on top 4 regardless of conference then who cares, but if it is based on conference champions, then the conferences will remain strong and you will see the status quo.

    What aggsy doesn't want to see is that the whole conference setup is nothing more than a leach on the few big time schools like Texas Oklahoma USC Alabama Florida etc etc etc

    When schools start to figure out that having their own network to some degree is going to make them a bunch more money that they don't have to share. You will see USC tOSU and Michigan head for the hills
    Good point. With the longhorn network getting off to such a great start I'm sure networks are lining up for the opportunity to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on individual school networks so that they can show a couple of football games a year.

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    Texas is cutting the trail for any other followers. Aggsy won't follow because no one wants to watch them. But teams like tOSU, USC, Meat Chicken, and Notre Dame can and should follow suit. They have a product people want to see and will pay to see.

    When the LHN gets shut down then I will call it a failure, until then, it is a success.

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    It's definitely a failure for espn so far.

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    "So far" means very little, it's only a failure if they throw in the towel. Many projects are destined to have short-term losses with the expectation of huge long-term gains.

    I'm sure they had no idea the resistance they would receive in the state when they started, or they might have known this was going to happen. I've heard they are asking for 1.50 a subscription for in-state and something like .85 for outside the state in the Big 12.

    I have yet to see one thing printed about how ESPN sees their investment going. The latest set of moves is making everything interesting for getting this network going, I'm interested to see how this latest set of moves is met.

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    Being told Notre Dame has rejected the B12 proposal because they wanted all their provisions and the conf was not willing to give them everything they want. Some other issues about how often FSU would get to play in Texas vs how often ND would get to, and petty stuff like that.

    Supposedly Notre Dame will be going to ACC and ACC is going to give them any and every thing they want, including not having to bring football.

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    Being told Notre Dame has rejected the B12 proposal because they wanted all their provisions and the conf was not willing to give them everything they want. Some other issues about how often FSU would get to play in Texas vs how often ND would get to, and petty stuff like that.

    Supposedly Notre Dame will be going to ACC and ACC is going to give them any and every thing they want, including not having to bring football.
    This site seems to agree:

    http://www.tigerboard.com/boards/mis...essage=9734108

    Do you think FSU and another school still get invites?

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    Don't know; if ND goes ACC, Clem may very well decide to stay and if FSU wants to come B12 may end up going with Lville or find some other shot in the dark.

    One thing is for sure, if this ACC thing is true you can expect B12 to vote right away to invite them and all the smoke and mirrors will vanish.

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    ACC is desperate to hold things together, but I don't see it lasting. THis is going to turn into a 4 conf league and the ACC is a basketball conf.

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    it's only a failure if they throw in the towel.
    Then that would simply complete the failure.

  13. #63
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    In business there are lots of ways to win even when it looks like you are losing. Keep this in mind.

    When Deloss Dodds walks into a room he is usually the smartest guy in the room, not to mention the most powerful. ESPN has Texas as an Ally in all it's college football dealings. Why, because of the LHN.

    In all this movement have you noticed that none of the major Universities have moved anywhere. Sure a few pawns have moved around, but the big fish are still sitting there. Texas & Notre Dame are the top fish in play and we are playing everything just like we know we should. ESPN knows that they are in a fight with Fox and jumped to get Texas in as their ally. And in doing so have kept Texas from shifting the balance of power to any single conference, especially the Big Tin.

    Now if we are looking at the LHN as a single business move by ESPN then maybe they did make a mistake, but again, this is a long-term move not a short one. However, if they are using Texas to help shape a more pro-espn college league by manipulating conference alignment then 15 million a year may be saving them 150 million a year.

    It's all speculation at this point because we aren't privy to what ESPN thinks in all that has happened with the LHN, my guess is even if they think it's a flop as a TV channel, they probably are still pretty happy with having Texas as an Ally

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