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    Damn cuban is stupid, Kidd leaving saved him from making a mistake. Why would you want to sign a 39 year old to a 3 year deal?

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    No doubt that 3/$9 million deal was a mistake that Kidd saved Cuban from. It could of hampered our chances for Kaman or Mayo

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    No doubt that 3/$9 million deal was a mistake that Kidd saved Cuban from. It could of hampered our chances for Kaman or Mayo
    crofl posting pretty much exactly what m>s said

    tbh it's surprising you can sit down long enough to post that with his man sauce always leaking out of your colon imho

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    crofl posting pretty much exactly what m>s said

    tbh it's surprising you can sit down long enough to post that with his man sauce always leaking out of your colon imho

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    Cuban's being a huge asshole about this . Move the on. It's your own fault for gutting the championship in the hopes of getting overrated Howard and DWill.

    Jason Kidd, JET, Dirk, Nash, Finley, and all of the players on the 2011 championship team deserve to have their jerseys retired at the AAC.

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    The wierdest thing of all is that Cuban admitted that getting both was not a possibility and that they had "serious" reservations about pairing Dwill with Dirk (he was their target). So with that in mind, why the would you blow up a championship team? If you could never get both & had reservations about the one you wanted, why on Earth do you make that decision - makes very little sense.

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    Well obviously they didn't feel too hot about their chances at a repeat and felt that tying up all that money in kidd/jet/tyson to keep everyone happy would have crippled us financially for years to come. It's not that hard to figure out why they did it, whether or not you agree with it is a different issue.

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    It is hard to figure out why they did it - what good is not being crippled financially for a few years if you can't do anything with it? Dirk is aging. You have limited time as a legit contender. You had a team that just won, were going into a lockout/short season where chemistry puts you ahead of the curve and you aren't confident about pairing the guy you want the most with your current star.

    Just having one year contracts all the time and the promises that flexibility brings means nothing at this point due to the above. It's no wonder he was able to sell Mav fans on Triple D Dynasty even though he just admitted there was zero chance of that happening.

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    It is hard to figure out why they did it - what good is not being crippled financially for a few years if you can't do anything with it? Dirk is aging. You have limited time as a legit contender. You had a team that just won, were going into a lockout/short season where chemistry puts you ahead of the curve and you aren't confident about pairing the guy you want the most with your current star.

    Just having one year contracts all the time and the promises that flexibility brings means nothing at this point due to the above. It's no wonder he was able to sell Mav fans on Triple D Dynasty even though he just admitted there was zero chance of that happening.
    Had they resigned all those guys they still wouldn't have a legitimate shot at a championship by this point. 1 year deals wouldn't work because Kidd and Terry both wanted multiyear deals. Tyson scoffed us and felt insulted because we didn't want to include him in our long term plans. He was due for his last big payday. Even Barea got paid. You couldn't have kept that team together with just 1 year deals.

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    Had they resigned all those guys they still wouldn't have a legitimate shot at a championship by this point. 1 year deals wouldn't work because Kidd and Terry both wanted multiyear deals. Tyson scoffed us and felt insulted because we didn't want to include him in our long term plans. He was due for his last big payday. Even Barea got paid. You couldn't have kept that team together with just 1 year deals.
    Read DPG's post again.

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    and his smack of Skip Bayless Cuban has definitely moved up some notches.
    I dunno, I think Skip definitely had the upper hand in that argument. Cuban came off as too confrontational (precisely what he was trying to pin on Skip) and seemed to have trouble expressing his points. If there's one thing Skip is good at, regardless of the actual nature of his viewpoints, it is his ability to say in no uncertain terms exactly what he means to say.

    To be fair, Cuban is not a television commentator by trade. Bayless was bound to outclass him in that respect.

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    Read DPG's post again.
    I see, I tend to skim his posts sometimes.

    Yeah 1 year deals isn't the solution but it does buy time to find a real one. There obviously isn't anything they can do right now to contend for a championship, Dirk aging or not. All they can do is wait for the right opportunity, personally I think resigning all those guys would have been a mistake because in all likelihood we'd still be right here with only 1 ring. Except we'd have money tied up in guys you can't really build around.

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    I see, I tend to skim his posts sometimes.

    Yeah 1 year deals isn't the solution but it does buy time to find a real one. There obviously isn't anything they can do right now to contend for a championship, Dirk aging or not. All they can do is wait for the right opportunity, personally I think resigning all those guys would have been a mistake because in all likelihood we'd still be right here with only 1 ring. Except we'd have money tied up in guys you can't really build around.
    Your probably right, but its a slap in the face to the team and its fans, that Cuban did not give Dirk a legit chance to defend the ship.

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    You still give it a shot tbh, even if the championship was fluky and the chances of repeating were low. Especially since Cuban had a history of giving big, long-term deals to scrubs like Erica and Brenda. Chandler shouldve been re-signed, even if it didnt work out he wouldnt have been unmovable like the other two scrubs...there wouldnt have been a shortage of teams interested in trading for him. Cuban ed up plain and simple.

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    cuban made the right choice, fck them sour grapes...

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    cuban made the right choice, fck them sour grapes...

    Cubes is smoking det Kiesha again if he beleives Kobe would ever play for him.....Buss would have a never traded him to a conference rival plain and simple...as Buss said before if he traded Kobe it would have to almost be for someone's whole team...Kobe earns our organization about 75 million a year according to Buss...

    this all I have to say to Cubes:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jgxl...eature=related

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    I dunno, I think Skip definitely had the upper hand in that argument. Cuban came off as too confrontational (precisely what he was trying to pin on Skip) and seemed to have trouble expressing his points. If there's one thing Skip is good at, regardless of the actual nature of his viewpoints, it is his ability to say in no uncertain terms exactly what he means to say.

    To be fair, Cuban is not a television commentator by trade. Bayless was bound to outclass him in that respect.
    Cubes destroyed Bayless and sent him to the tree of woe

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    Well the good news for Mav fans is that Cuban didn't do what most owners do which is panic. He made his decision & at least stuck with it (worst case scenario would have been to say you're going the flexibility route, then overpay mediocre FA's when you whiffed on DWill). He managed to put together a pretty damn good team (*potentially) on all short term deals. He may have lucked into a PG too that could be very effective and not cost as much as a DWill so he can spend the majority of his money elsewhere.

    So they are not in a terrible spot going forward, just one that they shouldn't have been in. That Bynum trade and Dwight trade really hurt Dallas though IMO.

    There is still potentially a great FA class next season, but things change fast.

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    Good points, DPG. Worst thing to do is to spend just because you have cap space. Or overpay your own guys PRIMARILY based on loyalty (Cough Luke Walton Cough).
    I think they have a solid playoff team with a top 4/5 (West) ceiling. Still doubt a top tier FA signs here in big"D" but we shall see. It's a good city with decent cost of living and very affordable housing (relative) especially in the market (Highland Park, Prosper, Frisco) where the affluent live. Those places are expensive but reasonable especially compared to Manhattan, South Beach, New Port Beach and Bel Aire etc. Plus, no state income taxes. The summers here suck ...and as someone pointed out it's still Cowboys country even though the Rangers and Mavs have had more plyoff success the past 5 years than my Boys have in the last 15.

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    None of what I said or DPG did before me mitigates the mistake Cuban made. I do think considering he won 2 years ago should buy him some leeway. My only issue is that les are so rare and the chemistry it takes to get one (he also mentioned how important it was to the 2011 squad and that no one knows how the Nets or Lakers will mesh) ...he HAD it. Season was short... he should of rolled the dice on at LEAST Tyson. He could of moved the surrounding pieces. I think Dirk NEEDED Tyson's intensity ...Dirk seemed to lose some fire ...and it makes sense they pretty much swapped Tyson for Lamar. I ent love Odom but consistent intensity is not his specialty.

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    None of what I said or DPG did before me mitigates the mistake Cuban made. I do think considering he won 2 years ago should buy him some leeway. My only issue is that les are so rare and the chemistry it takes to get one (he also mentioned how important it was to the 2011 squad and that no one knows how the Nets or Lakers will mesh) ...he HAD it. Season was short... he should of rolled the dice on at LEAST Tyson. He could of moved the surrounding pieces. I think Dirk NEEDED Tyson's intensity ...Dirk seemed to lose some fire ...and it makes sense they pretty much swapped Tyson for Lamar. I ent love Odom but consistent intensity is not his specialty.
    Well,he executed his plan the best way you could.After he let Tyson go,what he did was the best possible for the team.


    BUT,that doesn't make his decision right.I still thing that with Tyson and Barea back (the others could be replaced by similar players) meant repeat.Seriously,people seem to forget how we destroyed the Lakers and the 4-1 against the Thunder.Yes,the Heat series could go either way(esp games 2-3-4),but the finals were a near lock.

    The real question is,if you don't repeat in 11-12,what happens in 13 when the Lakers do what they did?? We wouldn't even have a MLE to work with or anything to improve.

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    Well,he executed his plan the best way you could.After he let Tyson go,what he did was the best possible for the team.


    BUT,that doesn't make his decision right.I still thing that with Tyson and Barea back (the others could be replaced by similar players) meant repeat.Seriously,people seem to forget how we destroyed the Lakers and the 4-1 against the Thunder.Yes,the Heat series could go either way(esp games 2-3-4),but the finals were a near lock.

    The real question is,if you don't repeat in 11-12,what happens in 13 when the Lakers do what they did?? We wouldn't even have a MLE to work with or anything to improve.
    Why why why are u clowns even talking bout the Mavs they're irrlevant...more Laker talk please...Mavs are now bottom feeders...cease and desist.

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