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Do you know why?
Pop is the one who choses not play him more than 25 minutes/game.
Do you know why?
He was 100% last season for the playoffs, wasn't he? The only injury I remember was the one sustained in early January 2012, which kept him out until mid-February.
I have called him Fraginobili the last few years, damn he is hurt again. He can't stay healthy for any length to get his game back
A combination of bad luck and old age. The good news is that none of his injuries seem to be the nagging kind. Those are the injuries that send players to an early retirement.
No, you can't cut his minutes any further. Keep him at ~24-25 once he comes back. In March and April, that probably needs to get bumped up closer to 30 to build his stamina.
It's part of the package with Ginobili. If he could play 32+ minutes per night, we'd be talking about a player who might get thrown a near max deal in the offseason. Given his minutes limitation and his injury history, the Spurs should be able to get him to come back for something like $8 million per year.
No idea
Yes he was last year, one out of the last 4 or 5 years he was not hurt. I don't like that ratio
So knowing he's getting older, still has injury issues (regardless of how they are classified) and that he's unable to log minutes beyond 24 without getting hurt (and his injuries have derailed playoff runs) you are still good with giving him 8M per year?
To me, while his "value" may technically be there, the fact you know he is injury prone and have seen his injuries build and build, giving him that much money doesn't make sense basketball wise. Yes,his per minute numbers are good but we all know he can't actually play 35 minutes like you need. So his per minute stats don't mean all that much and I don't know very many players that get injured and can only play 24 MPG that get paid like that.
Because if you play him more, he will get injured.
Better for him to sustain minor injuries now rather than later, even though he was finally rounding into form. Hopefully he'll be healthy for the playoffs
Maybe, or if you play Ginobili more minutes he wouldn't try to do too much like he usually does in limited minutes...
And limited minutes didn't help him in the previous seasons...
Manu should just retire.
Multiple injuries per year, unrealiable as , TO machine. Yeah this guy should call it a career.
I love Manu, but I would not give him 8 millions.
Ginobili is still damn good per minute. It is what it is. You gotta hope that Ginobili is healthy come the playoffs and hope that he can push it more and give you ~30 strong minutes per game in April and May. Ginobili is a high risk, high reward player right now in his career. But his ceiling remains high enough that he's still extremely valuable.
Anyways, TJ Ford missed seven weeks with a torn hamstring last year. Let's hope it's not THAT bad.
So a guy who gets injured a lot, is aging, you think playing him more minutes decreases his odds of getting hurt? That literally makes no sense and there is a very obvious reason Manu plays a measly 24 minutes. He has to be damn near the highest paid guy in the MPG range.
I would not give him $8 millions either.... more like $9-$11 million, tbh
I think a strain is different from a tear. Manu shouldn't be out 7 weeks but I'd think somewhere in the 1-5 week range depending on how bad it is.
Gasol is probably the highest paid in the MPG range this season, tbh
Like i said maybe, i think that a car running at full speed for 2 hours is more likely to break than one running at regular speed for 4.
Last edited by Brunodf; 01-13-2013 at 09:33 PM.
You honestly think he deserves more than Tim and the about the same as TP?
tbh he should be downgraded to a Steve Kerr, Brent Barry role no more. come in shoot a few shots and sit down at the 2nd or 3rd error.
But no, stubborn Pop still thinks Manu can take the team on his back. That is history.
Manu is going to play like Manu no matter how many minutes he plays, he always plays balls to the wall. That's who he is. But it's not like he sustained this injury doing some crazy . His body is just older and this happens to older wing players much more frequently, unfortunately
I was kidding, but Tony is making $12.5... $8 is probably about right, but the question is how much the Spurs will have to pay Tiago. Although if Diaw wants to bolt, there's another $4 million available
Pau is playing 34 minutes a game. That is a ton more than Manu. If you look at the guys who only play 24 minutes or so, Manu has to be a top paid player in that bracket. To me, you can't pay a guy a lot of money that can only play those minutes (especially when that doesn't curb the injury risk very much).
Just my two cents. Hopefully he can avoid the consistent bad luck he's had and stay healthy. He'll produce at a high level if healthy for 25 minutes and the Spurs really need that.
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