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    you still didn't answer my question, where did you see that he is 6'7"?

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    He is 2 inches off because Kurt Thomas is 6'9.

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    alright he's 6'9. I misread. Phoenix got Dijon thomson as part of the deal with NY. He's 6'7". I don't see how 2 inches makes much difference, but there you go. Happy now.

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    yeah

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    Joe Johnson, Jim Jackson, Shawn Marion, and Raja Bell. What people don't seem to realize is how effective Phoenix is in the half court. They are even better running but Kurt Thomas will be hitting midrange shots instead of Q. Richardson bricking 3 pointers. Kurt Thomas averages over 8 defensive rebounds per game at 6'9. That was by far Phoenix's weakest area and should improve their running game due to improvement in rebounding.
    they are not effective in a half court game because they're undersized... and kurt thomas is not a center, he's a natural power forward. the only thing they had/have going for them is the run and gun. when they tried going halfcourt things would break down... when they took nash out... everyone looked lost.

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    These moves make the Suns better suited for playoff basketball. Unfortunately, the Champs are getting better themselves this summer.

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    they are not effective in a half court game because they're undersized... and kurt thomas is not a center, he's a natural power forward. the only thing they had/have going for them is the run and gun. when they tried going halfcourt things would break down... when they took nash out... everyone looked lost.
    The suns have no trouble scoring in the halfcourt because of the chemistry between Nash and Stoudemire. Pic n roll is half court by the way and the spurs and every other team did not have an answer for that. So much for the idea of the suns not good in the half court because they're too small.

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    I wonder why Phoenix tried to run so badly against San Antonio since San Antonio was running better on them than Phoenix was on San Antonio. I thought Phoenix had the better half court offense and they aren't going to wear San Antonio down.

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    "Marion on Ginobili, and Johnson on Parker, while Thomas, Stoudemire, and Hunter take turns on Duncan."

    But they haven't played team defense under Mike, and the absence was so dramatic that it was probably Mike's life-long approach to coaching. I don't care what the personel changes are, if the the Suns continue as last year, they ain't gonna make past the Spurs.

    that means bruce bowen will be free to take steve nash out of the game...then what is the point of all those match up for the suns if nash can't feed them?

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    There is no way that in just getting Kurt Thomas that they will win a Championship or even get to the Western Conference Finals. Q kept them in many games with his 3 in the regular season. They don't have that outside shot anymore.
    Q kept them in some games, but only actually won a hand full. They have plenty of 3pt shooters left. Don't forget Q shot 600-some 3's. JoJo was second in the NBA in 3pt percentage. JJax, Marion, barbosa, etc.

    KT aslo adds another pic-n-pop option with his midrange.

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    that means bruce bowen will be free to take steve nash out of the game...then what is the point of all those match up for the suns if nash can't feed them?
    That is one player of a few that Bowen can't guard. Wade and Iverson are the other 2 that are too quick for Bowen.

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    Phoenix + Thomas - Q = Championship???? What?
    No.

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    That is one player of a few that Bowen can't guard. Wade and Iverson are the other 2 that are too quick for Bowen.
    And Bowen will be a year older which doesn't help his chances of guarding these players.

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    The talking heads are assuming that the Spurs beat the Suns solely because of Duncan.
    They are absolutely correct.

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    Did anyone forget how much better Stoudemire will be next year and he will he keep getting better because he is very young. He is not at Duncan's level yet but is not that far off. This team has the most upside in the nba.

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    Did anyone forget how much better Stoudemire will be next year and he will he keep getting better because he is very young. He is not at Duncan's level yet but is not that far off. This team has the most upside in the nba.
    That's right. And many people are acting like the Suns are changing their style. Let's not forget that this was a 29 win team prior to Nash & Q. It's the first year they were all together. This past season was just the beginning.

    The Cavs, with a good off season, will have a tremendous upside too.

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    Thomas will get the ball alot for the mid range because they would rather him shoot than Amare dunking or killing them with a 3.
    Your mileage may vary. Me? I'd rather have Amare dunking. Higher percentage. Kurt Thomas also can't defend Tim. Never could, never will.

    I like the Bell signing, but I can just see Nash running the break in November, and looking around like WTF? where is everybody? Shouldn't there be 5 of us?

    Going and getting some good role players isn't going to make up the three games that Phoenix was short last year in the SA series. I think a healthy Tim also offsets these transactions.

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    Going and getting some good role players isn't going to make up the three games that Phoenix was short last year in the SA series. I think a healthy Tim also offsets these transactions.
    It sucks that we have 11 months to wait and see.

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    oh man... all of a sudden a pick and a dunk is halfcourt offense. all of a sudden a power forward/center who isnt exactly known for his defense, means defensive stops when it counts... all of a sudden nash is going to get younger and play all 48mins so that everyone doesnt bobble the ball out there.

    that being said... like i said before good pickup, q wasnt being used right anyway.

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    oh man... all of a sudden a pick and a dunk is halfcourt offense. all of a sudden a power forward/center who isnt exactly known for his defense, means defensive stops when it counts... all of a sudden nash is going to get younger and play all 48mins so that everyone doesnt bobble the ball out there.

    that being said... like i said before good pickup, q wasnt being used right anyway.
    It worked most of the time Phoenix used it on the pick and roll. Phoenix wasn't as bad defensively as they were defensive rebounding. Nash might not get younger but with the continuing improvement of Stoudemire will cancel out that .

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    Can you tell me why you like the spurs, because I haven't seen 1 positive comment about the spurs from you yet.

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    The spurs won the championship but can't be satisfied with the same group. They still need improvement to beat the suns who will be much tougher. I hope Pop realizes this and still looks for improvement.

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    Q kept them in some games, but only actually won a hand full. They have plenty of 3pt shooters left. Don't forget Q shot 600-some 3's. JoJo was second in the NBA in 3pt percentage. JJax, Marion, barbosa, etc.

    KT aslo adds another pic-n-pop option with his midrange.
    Barbosa???? I wouldn't count on him to put my groceries away properly.

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    The spurs won the championship but can't be satisfied with the same group. They still need improvement to beat the suns who will be much tougher. I hope Pop realizes this and still looks for improvement.
    The Suns have gotten a little better, but do you honestly believe that what they have done thus far is enough to match up with the spurs? I hope the Suns think that Kurt Thomas is the answer on Duncan, Duncan has owned him since day one.

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    It worked most of the time Phoenix used it on the pick and roll. Phoenix wasn't as bad defensively as they were defensive rebounding. Nash might not get younger but with the continuing improvement of Stoudemire will cancel out that .
    and nash had nothing to do with that "continuing improvement of stoudemire" this last season? without nash, that team dont go. i like/love the way he plays... and he makes everyone better... but you cant play him 48mins a game and not expect injury or fatigue.

    you know, last year wasnt the first time nash had been in the western conference finals with a team known for its offensive firepower and lack of defense and defensive rebounding. i dont think thomas is the magical cure, but i think getting him is better than sticking with q.

    maybe they can use him right, because dallas has always tried "plugging in" bigmen to get rebounding/defense... most recently dampier.

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