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How about the Irish and the Chinese too?
Yup, that's all i'm asking for is a chance for the most disenfranchised race to get a chance to succeed. Happy to see someone agrees with me.
How about the Irish and the Chinese too?
'em. They're whiter.
Extreme Irony Alert.BoobieBird, ya got some real ty sources, man. real ty.
"fair skin? you're in"
i think we went through a lot more and are still suffering from 400 years of oppression. just let me get my phd from Duke. that's all i want.
the railroads were built on the backs of the chinese and irish, all i'm saying.
when chinese are being hung, shot, and are the butt of 90% of racism in America then holla at ya boy. i just want to go to Cal Berkeley for undergrad, is that too much to ask for?
the chinese didn't exactly have it easy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Exclusion_Act
I think the chinese also know a little bit about racism in America, too. Maybe it is just that the "coolies" were the different looking people out west back then.
TB
The "Latinos" in the Americas are really Native Americans that came across from Asia the Ice Age
As if on cue.I got slapped again!
Well I can only speak for myself and others of my race. I have seen first hand how slavery, racism and the civil rights movement affected blacks long term.
How has slavery affected you personally?
TBAs if on cue.
Which one is you?
TB
wow really? well besides the obvious racism and discrimination towards blacks due to hundreds of years of slavery, i lost a family member to a hate crime during the civil rights movement.
do you think blacks are owed reperations or at least a free education?
Trill...that's a fair question and I would like to examine it in some detail. First off, I obviously lack your perspective...if I come across as naive or insensitive, keep this in mind. It's not a blanket apology, it just is what it is..and I'm often an asshole too boot.
Anyway, if you're going to propose reparations, then it seems to me that you have to quantify and monetize loss to accomplish this. Otherwise, just throwing the checkbook out to be used as needed doesn't seem to be a very prudent approach. How would you characterize/quantify the loss?
Feel free to completely reject my premise of quantification and subs ute one of your own if needed.
I admit that he has clearly proven in this forum that the education system has failed him.
Im talkin' to Trill. Feel free to start your own conversation with him.
You're one to talk. Go prune a tree.
its all good, fam. first off, as horrible and evil as slavery was, there really is no legit way to quantify how much more a person's descendants suffered than the other. i really don't have an idea how to quantify or monetize it. i was having a conversation about reparations with my barber and while i mentioned a free college education to every african american, he countered with offering every african american family a 1/4 acre of land or a home.Trill...that's a fair question and I would like to examine it in some detail. First off, I obviously lack your perspective...if I come across as naive or insensitive, keep this in mind. It's not a blanket apology, it just is what it is..and I'm often an asshole too boot.
Anyway, if you're going to propose reparations, then it seems to me that you have to quantify and monetize loss to accomplish this. Otherwise, just throwing the checkbook out to be used as needed doesn't seem to be a very prudent approach. How would you characterize/quantify the loss?
i think it would be very dangerous to give people a lump sum of money. that's why i'm sticking with offering a education so they can have better opportunities or a home to get families off government assistance. i think most feel that en lement programs like food stamps, housing, medicaid, etc are reparations but those programs do more harm than good for minorities. i just wish that my peers who are poverty stricken would see it the same way.
That's a very well thought out response. Tough choice between education and a home, but from an administrative standpoint, the education would win hands down. Plus, there's a tax burden that goes with land and a house..that's the gift that keeps on giving.
That being said, I would support the education initiative with the caveat that the degrees are applicable. No theater arts degrees (I'm looking at my daughter here.)...something that is actually marketable or usable. It's really a win/win when you factor in meaningful employment = less social $ outlay.
I would also support this policy for any student, but if we had to single out a population to start with, I'm in.
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