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    Tpark,

    Give it up. The Suns are going to get Finley. The only defense Diaw is going to be playing is in practice.

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    Looks like a win win for both teams. And Joe Johnson was a better player last year than Marion.

    JJ is a TREMENDOUS talent and can play 3 positions.

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    The Suns are going to get Finley
    I thought Dallas changed their minds about waiving him and are expoloring trades now.

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    I heard Dallas is looking to trade Finley for Battie and Christie.

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    I don't know why Orlando would do that trade, especially if Francis is moving to SG.

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    I heard Dallas is looking to trade Finley for Battie and Christie.
    I heard that a little while back too.

    Supposedly there might be a hangup, but its not a big one.

    90% chance it gets done.

    If it does, Orlando goes to the playoffs and Phoenix gets hurt bigtime.

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    So does this mean that all the damn speculation is finally over? Thank goodness! I know that things are slow over the summer around here but I was getting particularly tired of this drama.

    I just don't see how this is going to help either team really. The Hawks get a massive contract for a guy they want at point guard. That's all fine and dandy except that the offensive system in Phoenix completely centered around running the transition game. I think the Hawks are going to be sorely disapointed if they're looking for a guy to run any kind of half court offense. Meanwhile the Suns are overhauling this team so much that I don't know how on Earth they are going to match their success last year. I know that there's talk about how they're going to switch the system up, put more emphasis on defense, but I wonder just how possible that is with the current coaching staff. What I saw from the Suns last year was a team that was maybe a year away from being seriously dangerous. Now I really don't know. And I wonder if this move is going to help keep Amare at all. When his contract comes up this move has freed up some money for him, but what kind of team would he be returning to? One with an aging Nash, Jackson, and Finley coupled with the questions marks of those draft picks.

    The Suns are going backwards this offseason, and I question just how much of a leap forward JJ is going to take the Hawks.

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    I don't know why Orlando would do that trade
    To give them a bench.

    Howard
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    Hill
    Nelson
    Francis

    Finley
    Turkoglu


    thats a solid 7 guys.


    Depth my friend, plus Finley>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Christie

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    And I wonder if this move is going to help keep Amare at all
    Who is he gonna go to???

    No one else I don't think will have the money to sign this guy.

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    I thought Dallas changed their minds about waiving him and are expoloring trades now.
    Of course _allas, would who wouldn't?

    I heard that a little while back too.

    Supposedly there might be a hangup,
    Yeah, common sense.

    90%? I'd love to see your source on that one.

    They can build a bench for a lot cheaper than 17 million a year.

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    Who is he gonna go to???

    No one else I don't think will have the money to sign this guy.
    The Lakers are clearing cap space to make a run at him.

    I'm sure there will be some other teams out there with cap room too.

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    If you're going to quote that oral rash, I'd just as soon see you quit posting here.



    Dude, don't take this the wrong way, but you're making my alma mater look bad right now. The tradeable assets in this deal are the draft picks.

    Why is Atlanta including him? Because there's a little thing called a collective bargaining agreement that all trades have to adhere to, and Diaw's salary makes this deal work.

    They aren't trading Diaw to Phoenix to give Phoenix a player, they're trading Diaw to Phoenix to get the contract/salary financials to line up.
    If you're going to insult me, don't preface it by "don't take this the wrong way", because how else am I going to take an insult?

    And you're making yourself look bad. Both the draft picks and Diaw are tradeable, he's a decent player. The Suns apparently want him. And Diaw's salary has nothing to do with making the deal work, the Hawks are way under the cap. Be a little more intelligent before you insult other people.

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    More than likely, because the Hawks shipped out Diaw.

    Looking more and more like Rasho aint goin nowhere.

    They are still looking for a center. And now with Joe Johnson there, one of their other swingmen seems more expendable. So I would think it's MORE likely now.


    42 minutes of happy and now right back to where I started

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    42 minutes of happy and now right back to where I started
    It's ok, I don't know that it necessarily makes it more likely. The Hawks are less likely to want another big salary now and they can't trade us Diaw anymore. A trade still might happen, but I don't see how this trade makes it more likely. Johnson's not adding to their glut of swingmen, they're using him at point.

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    Rasho and Scola for either Smith. Hawks can afford to buy Scola's contract out.

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    It's ok, I don't know that it necessarily makes it more likely. The Hawks are less likely to want another big salary now and they can't trade us Diaw anymore. A trade still might happen, but I don't see how this trade makes it more likely. Johnson's not adding to their glut of swingmen, they're using him at point.

    And I'm back!

    Hope on!

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    Man, Phoenix was in a lose-lose situation. Losing Johnson will kill their offense. No Q, No JJ... they're ed. They can't shoot the three in transition any more.

    Of course, matching that deal would have been twice as bad. There is no way in Joe Johnson is worth anything close to that kind of money. This is one of those deals you're going to look at in 2 years and wonder what in the Atlanta was smoking to offer such an asinine amount to this guy. You can't tell me he's $17 million better than Manu, on a contract that's also one year shorter. If I was Phoenix's GM I would have let his ass walk too. Johnson is no Nash, Stoudemire, or Marion.

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    90%? I'd love to see your source on that one
    Where is your source for Rasho is goin somewhere else.

    Oh BTW, its Mychael Thompson on local LA radio here, good friends with Laker brass, so Im sure they have heard it.

    Dont like it, shove it.

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    The Hawks are less likely to want another big salary now
    For bigmen Nesterovic is a midlevel salary.

    Jerome James will be making more than him. COME ON.

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    Atlanta would be silly to take on Rasho. Look at the team style coming up. They're going to go sleek and fast. They're not expecting to contend just yet, so will expect to take their lumps inside. Instead they'll go for a fan-base - finally - and run it up and down as much as they can with athletic wingmen. A Nesterovic sludges that up.

    It's a pure pipe dream to get rid of Rasho to the Hawks. They'd be crazy to do it. If anything, they'll bid for a younger, more athletic center like Stephen Hunter, then be done with it whether they get him or not.

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    Atlanta would be silly to take on Rasho. Look at the team style coming up. They're going to go sleek and fast. They're not expecting to contend just yet, so will expect to take their lumps inside. Instead they'll go for a fan-base - finally - and run it up and down as much as they can with athletic wingmen. A Nesterovic sludges that up
    What gets a running game going better than a great defensive center that blocks shots?

    Guess not.

    Yeah Stephen Hunter, whats he average about 4 points 3 boards a game??

    A guy that Steve Nash made look good, and will really show his true colors outside of Phoenix if he leaves.

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    It's a pure pipe dream to get rid of Rasho to the Hawks. They'd be crazy to do it. If anything, they'll bid for a younger, more athletic center like Stephen Hunter, then be done with it whether they get him or not.
    If they don't get Hunter (or someone like him), then they'd just roll with Collins as their only big?

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    What gets a running game going better than a great defensive center that blocks shots?

    Looks like I can officially welcome you back to the Rasho fan club.

    True, T-Park?

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    The Lakers are clearing cap space to make a run at him.

    I'm sure there will be some other teams out there with cap room too.
    The only way this happens is if Amare turns down the Suns max offer in a few weeks.

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    I'm rooting for the Suns to resign Amare. Anybody but those $%#@ Lakers.

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