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racial profiling?!!! it is not like 90% of terrorists aren't muslim males between 18-25! profile away!
Huh? I've taken about 20 flights in the 4 months, and the airports are still doing random in-depth searches. There's no more airline searches at the gates, but the searches at screening are still going on.If it is such an effective policy, why are they no longer using them in airports?
racial profiling?!!! it is not like 90% of terrorists aren't muslim males between 18-25! profile away!
if you hate the government why don't you move away bc you won't change it with your little parades and marches...
They aren't doing random searches anymore. They are searching everyone.
Parades and Marches? Disliking big government does not equal gay.
I would, but the founding fathers already used up the last continent to get away from government. Damn.
Aren't we already doing these things? Why is it an either/or proposition?spend the money on 1) intelligence and investigation -- stopping the terrorists regardless of what their plans are, and 2) emergency response -- lessening the impact of a terrorist attack, regardless of what the plans are.
Either way, it sounds like more of a tax dollars issue than a privacy/civil rights issue. Especially if you are not required to be searched.
You wouldn't. You are all talk. You will never do anything. Just like the rest of the libs...
I think its both. But yes, I think the primary arguement on this is the fact that it is a waste of money.
I think the burden of proof on whether or not to implement a policy should be on those who wnat to implment it to show that it is indeed an effective measure to undertake.
I still don't know how this does but waste money and provide false security.
You're all over the place. You're like a kid with ADD who's running from wall to wall pissing and ting on himself at the same time. Nice!
I think so too, unless you have a cir stance where immediate action of some sort is necessary. After the London bombings, I don't think it would have been prudent to sit around and try to find the perfect solution. Hopefully, that's what they're doing now.I think the burden of proof on whether or not to implement a policy should be on those who wnat to implment it to show that it is indeed an effective measure to undertake.
Manny,
No they're not searching everyone. Maybe we're not talking about the same thing - I'm talking about having someone step aside for a wand body scan, or opening up their carry-on and inspecting contents.
This random search is still going on, l've taken 22 flights between March 28 and now, and have seen it at a variety of airports (SA, Love, Houston Hobby, Austin, DFW, Atlanta).
The wand is not a search. I'm going by the court defnition of searches. If they are opening up the bags, that is a search, and I was under (the possibly incorrect) assumption that random bag searches had stopped.
Fair enough, and even so I think a policy of increased police presence without the searches would be much better served. And if you want to do something of a random nature, send officers with random metal detector wands instead.
On that subject, they are still doing searches.If they are opening up the bags, that is a search, and I was under (the possibly incorrect) assumption that random bag searches had stopped.
Interesting, I wonder which ones the TSA stopped then. I'm going to have to find more info.
They have stopped doing searches at the gates (after 9/11 you could be searched at security only to turn around and be searched at the airline gates).
Luckily I haven't been pegged for a search at the gates, but I usually see a couple of people asked to step aside.
I've had my bags swabbed for explosives a couple of times though.
i always get searched, but i don't care... once, when coming back from deployment.. i had my gas mask and other ta-50 ... they asked to see my military id. i wasn't military, so i didn't have one.. that search took forever.. i had to unpack my whole ta-50 there in the airport! i was expecting it though...oh well...
also, i am hispanic and don't always have the shortest hair...
My son recently moved to Alaska - he flew out of San Antonio. He is 24, has some hispanic blood and had a one-way ticket. He was pulled aside and had to unpack both his carry-ons so that they could be completely searched. However, we were expecting it, so we arrived in plenty of time.
Isn't riding the subway, or an airline, or a bus, or a taxi all voluntary??
And I beg to differ. Again, if I know there are random searches I'm not going to risk carrying my "herbs" on board. It sure deters me.
Something being voluntary does not mean it is subject to random searches. Walking out your door is voluntary, as is almost every other action.
The subway system- just as the road system - is part of the public right of way. Airlines are not.
Really? Even when they allow you to leave without being searched only to walk half a block and get on the subway there? OK.And I beg to differ. Again, if I know there are random searches I'm not going to risk carrying my "herbs" on board. It sure deters me.
Most know that I'm a democrat but it is time we JFK democrats took the party back from the left wing radicals. While I'm for civil liberties I'm also for protecting the people. But let's hear some better options as well.
good points. then they shouldn't allow you get out of line until AFTER you are searched.
All I know is that I personally have no problems with searches...well, except cavity searches.
Freedom takes sacrifice...well, except cavity searches.
Do that, and you'll remind everyone of when Democrats weren't a joke.
Good luck, I sincerely hope that you are sucessful.
I'm all for airport and subway searches. I live in Manhattan and take the subway to work. I don't care if the cops make me loose 1 to 2 minutes (if it even takes that long) to search my bag.
By the way, have dark hair and black eyes, so I'm bound to be searched. But I don't care.
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