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    I live in Arizona, and people on both ends of the political spectrum are looking at McCain and saying "wtf"? This only means one thing. He's running for president, even if he won't admit it now. He's studying diligently with the Hillary Clinton "remake your image toward the middle in less than 4 years" home study course. Of course, McCain is reading it backwards, but it's the same final exam.

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    No, Creationism attempts to explain the "apparent" intelligent design of biologic organisms by ascribing it to a Omnipotent God. Intelligent Design, attempts to apply the scientific method to the "apparent" intelligent design of biologic organisms and discover what could account for the intricate construction of the gene or the living cell, etc...
    I agree with all of this except the part about ID using the scientific method. What experiment could one do to prove/disprove an ID theory?

    Darwin didn't attempt to explain where life came from, just what it did once it existed. And, even then, his natural selection theory is full of holes. Many species of animals and plants seem to have just popped into existence, without a lineage, long after the primordial soup dried up.
    Of course, Darwin's theories <> modern evolutionary biology. A lot more has been discovered and a lot of holes have been filled in the last 120 years.




    Creationism, to me, can be described as an unsophisticated, oversimplified attempt at grasping an intelligent creator and that creator's design. That's not a value statement on religion. But, certainly, Intelligent Design theory holds that the creator need not be omnipotent, omnipresent, or omniscient...any more than a computer programmer is those things with the product of their labors.
    Your definition of creationism above just said that an omnipotent God is responsible for Creation. That's not unsophisticated in and of itself. Almost every monotheist, Christian, Jewish, and Muslim, believes that.

    Where creationism becomes unsophisticated is when people take a narrow interpretation of their colloquial translation of an ancient holy text and use that to explain natural phenomena against all objective evidence.

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