The reality of the cap space - would Aldridge would cost too much

[cjw]

sign a 4 year deal with alridge with player option after 2 years cap up then sign him max to 5 year deal then

If that's how you need to get it done, then maybe...

But do you really want to sign him for $20.1 / $21.0mm over the next two years ($67.1mm cap / 4.5% raises) and then max him out for another five years at 35% of the cap? Over $30mm a year ascending at 7.5% per year for a guy who will be 37-38 when all is said and done?

[Andthentherewas21]

And for the triple post for finale - if anyone is asking me my own answer to that question? I say absolutely.

If someone said you could essentially trade Manu/Patty/Cory/Beli/Baynes/Bonner/Ayres for LaMarcus/26th Pick/Kyle Anders (and possibly an MLE level player) no one would ever say no to that.

I would say no. The Spurs lose all their backup guards (could care less about the frontcount players) for LaMarcus, a pick the Spurs have regardless, and are forced to play Kyle "Slow-Mo" Anderson who struggled to find court time during an injury riddled season for the Spurs. This immediately after a season when Parker struggled significantly.

I think the Spurs can probably find a decent role player at 26, but I doubt he'll be able to contribute immediately. Depending on Anderson's progress this off-season, he may or may not be ready to contribute next season. And while the MLE has traditionally been able to net a decent player, with the impending jump in the salary cap, I could see players demanding more money this off-season to offset the higher MLE that will be available next season.

[elbamba]

If a player retires with future years on his contract, does he still get the money?

My thought would be to offer Duncan a 2 year contract for 15 million and a player option on the second year. He could then play this year for maybe 5-6 million and then retire if they win the championship.

[elbamba]

At this point, I would prefer to keep Marco over resigning Manu to a lot of money. And Manu has been my favorite player for the past 10 years.

[stxspurs]

its smoke screen....we will probably end up with Dalembert or the bad lopez

[baseline bum]

its smoke screen....we will probably end up with Dalembert or the bad lopez

Brooke? I'd rather have the good brother Robin.

[Seventyniner]

Lamarcus Aldridge is not coming to San Antonio.

He's already here!

[DPG21920]

If a player retires with future years on his contract, does he still get the money?

My thought would be to offer Duncan a 2 year contract for 15 million and a player option on the second year. He could then play this year for maybe 5-6 million and then retire if they win the championship.

The answer to your question is no - players do not get their money if they retire.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Spurs fans seem to be discounting the idea the team could be willing to pay the tax for one year, knowing after next summer the cap goes up substantially and they're in the clear. This is the twilight of the twilight of Tim's career. The front office owes him whatever it can do to try and get another ring before he's done.

[cd021]

Green is gone imo. To Cle.

Marco might be gone too to better pastures. is a winner after all.

And all that is without even considering Manu or Lamar moves tbh

If Lamar or Gasol don't come and Manu doesn't retire. Might as well tank for the lottery cause this team has no prayer next year.

Sound like a Cleveland fan. They will have the highest payroll in the NBA. Smith is picking up his option Thompson is going to be resigned (probably at $14 million a year), Love has a handshake deal to pick up his option, Mosgov's team option is getting picked up. They will have at least $115 million in salary before they get to the MLE.

[cd021]

If a player retires with future years on his contract, does he still get the money?

My thought would be to offer Duncan a 2 year contract for 15 million and a player option on the second year. He could then play this year for maybe 5-6 million and then retire if they win the championship.

The Spurs could offer Duncan a 2 year deal (with the 2nd year partially guaranteed). He'd get payed a portion of his money irregardless of whether he retires or plays. They already did it with McDyess.

[cd021]

If that's how you need to get it done, then maybe...

But do you really want to sign him for $20.1 / $21.0mm over the next two years ($67.1mm cap / 4.5% raises) and then max him out for another five years at 35% of the cap? Over $30mm a year ascending at 7.5% per year for a guy who will be 37-38 when all is said and done?

They could sign him to a 1 year deal worth $18 then give him a max 4 year deal the following off season. He'd make something like $106 over 5 seasons

[maverick1948]

Anyone on here ever hear of a "one and one" contract"? That is where a player signs a 2 yr contract with the 2nd year a player option in order to sign a higher max. LA is at a point that if he signs a max contract this year, he would lose a lot of future money. If he signs a 5 yr max, he get the max deal at the level of the CBA now or a starting figure of 18.9 mil with annual raises. If he signs a one and one, LA would be at the break point for the higher max at 10yrs or more. Starting in 2016-17, that amount goes to 29mil +or-. If SA is the place LA wants to come then a one and one contract works in both his and the Spurs favor. LA can take a contract of 13 mill with a 2nd yr at play option at whatever. Then sign max deal after his 10th season and get the extra 10 mill a year for 5 yrs. This would give the Spurs a lot of leeway to work a contract with Danny Green to return for 6 mill and good raises. If another team offers more than 6 mill, we should let him go. A 3 and D can be found for less then 6 mill. Kawhi will be better off taking a 3 yr deal for max now and extend after that when he can get 7 yr max deal. "Reality of the cap space"? With a creative front office, we can get LA, DG, KL, TD, and still have money for a bench.

[look_at_g_shred]

3 and D guys are not easy to find lol why did it take so long for us to find a Bowen replacement? 6 mil for DG that's it? dude should get no less than 9! Pay whatever it takes to keep him. If we lose Danny, we may as well throw our championship aspirations out the window.

[TD 21]

IIRC, partially guaranteed contracts count fully against the cap (as if they were guaranteed). The difference is that the team can simply opt to waive the player when the deadline comes to fully guarantee the contract, and then at that point the entire salary comes off the books. So there's really no loophole there.

Right, which they can do, if Duncan only intends to play one more season

However they end up doing it, if Aldridge signs and Green re-signs, I'm confident that Duncan and Ginobili would work with the organization.

My only concerns this off season are: 1) Signing Aldridge, 2) Re-signing Green, 3) Ginobili returning. If those three things come to fruition, the top eight would be: Duncan, Aldridge, Leonard, Green, Parker, Ginobili, one of Splitter/Diaw and one of Mills/Joseph. The depth would take a hit, but the tradeoff on the top end would be more than worth it.

[spurs10]

Right, which they can do, if Duncan only intends to play one more season

However they end up doing it, if Aldridge signs and Green re-signs, I'm confident that Duncan and Ginobili would work with the organization.

My only concerns this off season are: 1) Signing Aldridge, 2) Re-signing Green, 3) Ginobili returning. If those three things come to fruition, the top eight would be: Duncan, Aldridge, Leonard, Green, Parker, Ginobili, one of Splitter/Diaw and one of Mills/Joseph. The depth would take a hit, but the tradeoff on the top end would be more than worth it.

This is where our draft pick, Anderson, or Baynes might come into play....that's 11.

[T Park]

if Green goes anywhere its to the Knicks. Can see them giving him a contract to come home and shore up their shooting, plus playe the new age small ball with a slower Anthony at the 4.

[cjw]

if Green goes anywhere its to the Knicks. Can see them giving him a contract to come home and shore up their shooting, plus playe the new age small ball with a slower Anthony at the 4.

You must not follow Phil Jackson on Twitter!

[ElNono]

Right, which they can do, if Duncan only intends to play one more season

However they end up doing it, if Aldridge signs and Green re-signs, I'm confident that Duncan and Ginobili would work with the organization.

My only concerns this off season are: 1) Signing Aldridge, 2) Re-signing Green, 3) Ginobili returning. If those three things come to fruition, the top eight would be: Duncan, Aldridge, Leonard, Green, Parker, Ginobili, one of Splitter/Diaw and one of Mills/Joseph. The depth would take a hit, but the tradeoff on the top end would be more than worth it.

It'll be interesting to see how much TD gets paid if he wants back. I can completely imagine an scenario where Pop does not want guys like Green or Tiago to make more than TD, strictly from a respect standpoint. If that's the case, it will likely cost $10m again.

[baseline bum]

Spurs fans seem to be discounting the idea the team could be willing to pay the tax for one year, knowing after next summer the cap goes up substantially and they're in the clear. This is the twilight of the twilight of Tim's career. The front office owes him whatever it can do to try and get another ring before he's done.

I think Holt will do it for a year, but it's not the dollar for dollar tax of the old days. Even for a first time offender the tax is $1.50 per dollar over now.

[baseline bum]

It'll be interesting to see how much TD gets paid if he wants back. I can completely imagine an scenario where Pop does not want guys like Green or Tiago to make more than TD, strictly from a respect standpoint. If that's the case, it will likely cost $10m again.

I could honestly see Tim take the same paycut Manu did this year, maybe a $7 million contract. I can definitely see Pop telling him he won't pay him less than $10 million and I can see Tim telling him to go himself, he'll make what he makes. Not that I'd hold it against him since he's probably worth about $18 million.

[DPG21920]

I think Holt will do it for a year, but it's not the dollar for dollar tax of the old days. Even for a first time offender the tax is $1.50 per dollar over now.

Yup - it's a hefty bill. For a team that is just 5M over the tax line, the bill is 7.5M in tax for that. Also, a side note that no one seems to be discussing: It's not just about luxury tax. It's about total dollars spent. Even if the Spurs weren't in the "luxury tax" the roster could still cost 80M dollars.

Even in the past, when LT was lower, have you ever seen that from the Spurs? Luxury tax or not, 80M is 80M. Spurs didn't avoid luxury tax because of the tax. To them its total dollars spent whether it's in the form of a tax or not.

[spurs10]

Yup - it's a hefty bill. For a team that is just 5M over the tax line, the bill is 7.5M in tax for that. Also, a side note that no one seems to be discussing: It's not just about luxury tax. It's about total dollars spent. Even if the Spurs weren't in the "luxury tax" the roster could still cost 80M dollars.

Even in the past, when LT was lower, have you ever seen that from the Spurs? Luxury tax or not, 80M is 80M. Spurs didn't avoid luxury tax because of the tax. To them its total dollars spent whether it's in the form of a tax or not.

No wonder it cost more to see the Spurs than a night at the Four Seasons.