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He definitely has a chance to win RoY if he can pad up stats with poor efficiency like MCW did, but the precondition is that Kobe quits the season soon enough.
Your post is highly enlightening. Not annoying at all.
He definitely has a chance to win RoY if he can pad up stats with poor efficiency like MCW did, but the precondition is that Kobe quits the season soon enough.
Truth nukes
Amb is like one of the least annoying s around this place tbh, non-American Lockets fans are much worse.
Let it begin...
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D'bust needs to lay off that pcp. He is having delusions of grandeur. Lakers aren't making the playoffs.
Well thats still better than current Kobe and not winning
Last person to be talking about winning. Your on route to back2back2back lottery years. Something my Spurs have never experience pre or post Duncan. So shut the up plz.
How can you be confident in this thread about LA's future, but act like SA can't win post Duncan? Spurs have a better young core than LA already and our current team is also better. If SA ain't winning with our young core, LA has zero chance now or for years to come.
Your young players can't even stay on the floor. Randle is done. And D'bust is already breaking down in training camp.
yikes.
Mudiay is in a much better spot to win ROY. He looks like he could have a higher ceiling and he's also not playing next to Kobe. It would be very surprising if Russ had a ROY type year. Doesn't mean his ceiling isn't high, but he seems like someone that might need a while to reach that potential.
He won't get the minutes or shine to win the award. Typically this award goes to the best player on a ty team... not to a player on contending teams.
Nuggets aren't contending. They will be a mediocre team and they traded away Lawson to give the ball to Mudiay. He's in a good spot.
And yes, I know you were trying to be cute by implying LA was the contending team.
Relax. Its week one of camp. Nicca putting in work gets nicked up ... happens
Show me where i have confidence. If you read above i questioned the coach and talked how the Buss feuds need to stop. Im just not overly pessimistic but i did not even predict playoffs for this team. I do expect to be contenders in 3 years but even that doest mean championship ...but yes i do feel confident you wont ring post Duncan. You will be good still because of Pop ...but you wont ring with kiwi or Aldridge as your leaders ....
Lol i speak truths and the response is your team sux ...does the truth hurt? How does the Lakers struggles help change anything for your Spurs? You had an all-time great in David ... but didnt win till Tim got there. Pop, just like Phil needs all time greats to lead the le run. Until you get another ... you won't ring PERIOD ... and neither will the Lakers ...if it makes you feel better.
Last edited by Killakobe81; 10-02-2015 at 07:50 AM.
Do you actually believe the you say?
I'd say it's about 60% chance that they all suck and 30% that clarckson can be decent and 10% dbust can be decent
I don't think always - but he's a good dude.
What is the issue here? In short I said ..
1. I "expect" Lakers to be contenders in three years ..not that they will or that I promise they will but that is my hope and expectation for a franchise like ours. Note: I also never thought it would take 12 years for us to ring after 1988 so I could be wrong ...
2. Spurs wont ring post Duncan ...without another sure-fire HOF player to lead them. David was an amazing player ... no doubt HOf'er but yet couldnt ring before Timmy. So are you telling LMA or Kiwi is going to lead a le team sans Timmy? Nicca please. David is much better than either guy and I love Kiwi. what is more likely your team that never won before Tim winning a le with Aldridge as the lead dog or you guys not winning without Duncan?
3. Last I said neither the Lakers or Spurs will ring (post Tim/Kobe) until they find their next transcendant star (plus the Lakers need a coach).
What is shocking or earth shattering about what I said. Please prove a solid argument that I am wrong on any of the above. Like I said, my team sucks ...none of that changes my argument.
Last edited by Killakobe81; 10-02-2015 at 10:54 AM.
Thanks bro but you dont have to defend me his response was ty anyways.
My man, saying you expect a team to be a contender in 3 years implies confidence. If you didn't have confidence in that, there would be no logical reason to expect that. But since you do expect that, you are saying LA is a contender in 3 years (contender means you have a shot to win a le). Then saying LA won't win a ring post Kobe (or with Kobe) contradicts that.
You can't expect to be a contender then rule out winning a le. If you have zero shot at winning a le, you cannot be a contender.
If you expect LA to be a contender, you have to have SA above them even post Duncan considering SA has a better young core already than LA so we have a head start.
Very little of what you just said makes any sense for the above reasons.
What are your expectations based on though? The Lakers management has proved to be woefully incompetent based on the last few years, missing on obvious opportunities and just making decisions that are head-scratching to say the least. It would take a huge 180 for the Lakers to be contenders again.
Here you go looking at one single player again. Would you say Chauncey Billups was a better player than Robinson? Even Dirk, Wade, Garnett, and Pierce doesn't have much of a case over Robinson as an individual, and yet they all won a ring because they had better teams. The Spurs with a foundation Kawhi and Aldridge along with a strong management team can be a le winner when things fall the right way, just like they did for the Heat and the Pistons, especially in the days where the emphasis is on team play and ball movement.
You insistence of the single superstar model is flawed. GS showed it last year, Spurs showed it the year before, and both times they beat the best player in the game.
I never said a "single star" would win. I said that David did not win until Tim was there to lead them.You can make excuses for him, and some would be valid but that is a fact. Some players Like David, Pau, Aldridge, Pau, Manu,Tony Parker etc. are great hall of fame type players but are not able to lead good teams to a le. With the right leader (tim/Pop/Manu or Fisher/Kobe/Phil) they are able to win.
BTW, Curry though nowhere close to Tim's level was the MVP and a true star. I do think their win was more about their versatility and pace ... but he absolutely stepped up and drove the le bus. Whether he is as good as David Robinson or not he is still the best player on a le team. David was not.
Spurs in 2014 were still led by Tim btw ... aren't you the one who said that if the Spurs win in 2015 Tim's leadership would be a big reason why?How is that less true in 2014? Didnt you spend days arguing with DMC over that very point? Where is your freaking consistency, Amb? So the Spurs with Tim still playing at all-star level are not among the favorites to win this year, but then they can win without him with Aldridge and Kiwi leading the way? What leadership abilities has anyone on the Spurs roster shown outside of Manu, tim and Pop?
As for the Lakers they suck right now we both know it. But I still will not expect anything less than bck to WCF contenders in three years. If we are not then we have failed. I dont give a about all teh drama you posted only results. We have money, will soon have cap-space we are still in L.A> if they are not within 3 years I would expect Scott, jim buss and possibly even Mitch to be gone.
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