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    The West Coast has the tiest rap music of all-time, tbh..it's been absolute trash since about 1993..
    You aint from there so you dont get it. tha Liks, Snoop, DJquik, Nate Dogg, Tha Dog Pound, Ras Kass xzibit, WC, Cube all put out quality music. I love hip hop from all sides. Wasnt a fan of much of the Southern the chop and screwed or strip club rap (which Drake does sometimes as well) .... but Outkast and Goodie mobb, scarface and Luda.

    Drake is talented but not so innovative imho ...he borrowed so much from Wayne, the south hyfy rap ...

    Pretty dismissive for you to hate on westcoat rap "since '93" ...and complete bull .

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    Corny lyrics which are written by a record company obviously makes a bad rapper. But any upper middle class rappers, like kanye, talking about how great they are, are obviously garbage as well because there is no substance to what he is writing about. 2Pac as a composer obviously wasn't the best, but his lyrics had a message, as well as his emotion in the rapping, made his music of real substance.
    Kanye has party songs but if you listen to his albulms he has plenty to say ...even his hits:

    Golddigger, Jesus Walks, Diamonds from sierra Leone, Runaway are all deep if you get by the catchy beats and hooks.

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    Pain...Pac was doing that same on Me Against the World. It Ain't Easy could've been Pain with a different groove.

    Scarface>>>Pac lyrically. It's not close at all.

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    2Pac, Jay-Z, Outkast (Dre mostly), Rakim, Public Enemy ... in that order.

    Drake is trash.
    Big Boi is arguably better than Dre tbh

    lol at Drake hate, it's not 2009

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    Your boy Drake wishes his ghostwriters could have written that song for him
    shut his dumbass up real quick.

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    You aint from there so you dont get it. tha Liks, Snoop, DJquik, Nate Dogg, Tha Dog Pound, Ras Kass xzibit, WC, Cube all put out quality music. I love hip hop from all sides. Wasnt a fan of much of the Southern the chop and screwed or strip club rap (which Drake does sometimes as well) .... but Outkast and Goodie mobb, scarface and Luda.

    Drake is talented but not so innovative imho ...he borrowed so much from Wayne, the south hyfy rap ...

    Pretty dismissive for you to hate on westcoat rap "since '93" ...and complete bull .
    Drake bites from a lot of people but he's so good no one cares

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    If you want to talk about one full album lyrically, Twista's Adrenaline Rush is probably top three.

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    Big Boi is arguably better than Dre tbh

    lol at Drake hate, it's not 2009
    They are the perfect pairing tbh...like MJG and Eightball.

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    Big Boi is arguably better than Dre tbh

    lol at Drake hate, it's not 2009
    Wait what? In what sense is Big Boi even close to andre? Dont get me wrong Big boi is cooler than a Polar Bear's toenails ... he dropped this:
    Well it's the M - I - crooked letter, ain't no one better
    And when I'm on the microphone you best to wear your sweater
    Cause I'm cooler than a polar bear's toenails
    Oh , there he go again talking that
    Bend, corner's like I was a curve, I struck a nerve
    And now you bout to see this Southern player serve
    I heard it's not where you're from but where you pay rent
    Then I heard it's not what you make but how much you spent
    You got me bent like elbows, amongst other things, but I'm not worried
    Cause when we step up in the party, like I'm out-you-scurry
    So go get your in' shine box, and your sack of nickles
    It tickles to see you try to be like Mr. Pickles
    Daddy fat sacks, B-I-G B-O-I
    It's that same mother er that took them knuckles to your eye
    And I try, to warn you not to test but you don't listen
    Giving the shout out to my Uncle Donnel locked up in prison
    but when Dre dropped ...

    Now, my oral illustration be like clitoral stimulation
    To the female gender, ain't nothin better
    Let me know when it's wet enough to ente
    r
    If not I'll wait, because the future of the world depends on
    If or if not the child we raise gon' have that syndrome
    Or will it know to be the hard regardless of the skintone
    I really feel that if we tune it, it just might get picked on
    Or will it give a about what others say and get gone

    The alienators cause we different keep your hands to the sky
    Like Sounds of Blackness when I practice what a preach ain't no lie
    I'll be the baker and the maker of the piece of my pie
    Now breaker, breaker 10-4 can I get some reply?

    this was one verse later it's like Nas said "you got murdered on yo own !!! I like Big Boi his but he has not had one verse on his resume that can with 3000 on Atliens. But as someone else said they balanced each other out well.

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    I would say Dre is the king of the single verse. That man had some that would just come out of nowhere and have you shaking your head.

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    Btw...MJG and Eightball>Outkast. I'll argue that to my ing grave.

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    Have you listened to Pac albums? Full of e fillers
    Very few albums you can actually listen to from beginning to end without skipping and at the pace Pac was releasing albums it was almost impossible to have no fillers.

    All Eyez On Me is guilty of that being a double album and all.

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    Btw...MJG and Eightball>Outkast. I'll argue that to my ing grave.
    Love dem memphis niggs but cant co-sign that. when it comes to true duos it's


    1. Outkast
    2. Qtip and Fife
    3. EPMD
    4. Eightball & MJG
    5. UGK
    6. Kurrupt & Daz

    im probably forgetting some but that's my list for now

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    Pain...Pac was doing that same on Me Against the World. It Ain't Easy could've been Pain with a different groove.

    Scarface>>>Pac lyrically. It's not close at all.
    What rapper uses a different subject matter in all his songs?

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    Notorious B.I.G. or Nate Dogg, with Warren G as an underrated front runner.

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    What rapper uses a different subject matter in all his songs?
    There's a difference between different subject matter and saying the exact same over and over. I would say anything past Me Against the World was Pac living on his delivery and his voice, not his lyrics. He's the Pimp C of the West Coast.

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    Love dem memphis niggs but cant co-sign that. when it comes to true duos it's


    1. Outkast
    2. Qtip and Fife
    3. EPMD
    4. Eightball & MJG
    5. UGK
    6. Kurrupt & Daz

    im probably forgetting some but that's my list for now
    Well my south bias is always going to show. Can't place EPMD near Outkast or Ball & G. I'm not going to be mad at someone that says Outkast is better, but if you take the whole catalog with beats, lyrics etc. I have to go with Ball & G.

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    Dre is a better artist, but I always liked Big Boi's delivery more.

    Dre > Boi in Outkast

    But Big Boi has the better solo career, no? Sir lucious Left foot :fire:

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    Big L
    Nas
    Andre 3000
    Lord Finesse
    Wu-Tang Clan
    Big Pun
    Jay-Z

    In no particular order, but with Big L #1. That's a personal list though, lots of greats not on it that could easily be argued over a few of those guys.

    Big L could make most people listed on this thread look stupid. That guy's freestyle is better than their written rap.

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    Best West Coast MC is probably Ice Cube.










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    Jay, Kanye, Wayne, Drake all could have cases made ...but I think Em and Andre 3000 are probably my faves. Not a fan of wayne or drake but you cant deny their talent.

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    You guys need to listen to my benefactor

    His taste in rap music is exquisite...he put in some legendary work in that 90s rap thread in The Club.

    BTW....IMO....UGK > Everybody else combined

    Ridin' Dirty might be the greatest rap album of all time....top 5 no doubt.

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    Drake is one of the most innovative and creative rappers in music history, tbh..it's usually people in their 30s and 40s that dislike him, along with insecure men IMO..
    Sorry, man, but your boy has ghostwriters out the ass





    Drake's just lucky that Meek - despite having golden, career-ruining material to use against him - was too ing re ed to produce even a semi-competent diss track.

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    There's nothing wrong with having a ghost writer, tbh, most greatest artists do at some point..

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    Lol @ Pac being even a top 10 rapper all time. wasn't even the best of his generation, and I don't even fw dusty ass 90s rap like that.
    As a fan of hip hop how can you not with 90's rap honestly? It's a matter of preference but rap since the 90's has gotten A LOT worse. 80's fan? This era today is just the worst by far, horrible.
    There's nothing wrong with having a ghost writer, tbh, most greatest artists do at some point..
    Input maybe here or there or maybe for a song or two, not full albums though. Most artists who pride them selves write most of their own raps, thats why when it gets out there is a Ghost writer or you are accused of it then they get so defensive or deny it. Most great artists pen their own man.
    Sorry, man, but your boy has ghostwriters out the ass





    Drake's just lucky that Meek - despite having golden, career-ruining material to use against him - was too ing re ed to produce even a semi-competent diss track.
    Thats what I don't get with Meek, he is a battle rapper or was and he can't even beat Drake in a battle? Drakes diss was average but better than his, that was a weak ass battle. Pathetic.

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