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    I certainly didn't expect you to talk about your education or abilities.
    Do you want to talk about yours? What's your education level and what are your job abilities?

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    Do you want to talk about yours? What's your education level and what are your job abilities?
    Sure. Bachelor's degree. Steadily employed for a few decades. I'm sure many Syrian refugees have a better CV than mine. It's no insult to me.\

    How about you?

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    Sure. Bachelor's degree. Steadily employed for a few decades. I'm sure many Syrian refugees have a better CV than mine. It's no insult to me.\

    How about you?
    same.
    But I don't know how many (if any) Syrians are more qualified to do what I'm doing.

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    same.
    But I don't know how many (if any) Syrians are more qualified to do what I'm doing.
    Good for you. The ones whose stories I have seen here seem to start working pretty quickly, just like most of the hundreds of thousands of refugees we have taken in over the years.

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    Good for you. The ones whose stories I have seen here seem to start working pretty quickly, just like most of the hundreds of thousands of refugees we have taken in over the years.
    I don't think you have any way to know if "most" of the hundreds of thousands are similar to the relatively small number of stories you've heard.

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    Good for you. The ones whose stories I have seen here seem to start working pretty quickly, just like most of the hundreds of thousands of refugees we have taken in over the years.
    do you think it was racist that Samir Nagheenanajar was the one who couldn't figure out the printer?

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    Impossible to let them in in the numbers that say Europe is letting them in with enough vetting. I'd like to know what kind of vetting the U.S. is doing before allowing even one of them in. And that seems to be a key reason why they're doing this pe ion:

    "Many do not even speak Arabic, cannot tell you where they came from in Syria, and have no official do ents. They make up their own names and there is no way to accurately vet them. They are Afghans fleeing the Taliban; Eritreans fleeing their own repressive government; and many more hail from Iraq, Pakistan, and sub-Saharan Africa."

    If these are the standards to let refugees in, then I guess I'm on board, too.

    I brought up the same point while Europe was allowing refugees to flood through their boarders. Seems many liberals over in Europe had their heads up their asses. NOW, it closes its boarders, or at least has (or so I read) a firm grip on who's coming in. Typical result of misguided (and widespread) liberal love & peace bull thinking.
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    Impossible to let them in in the numbers that say Europe is letting them in with enough vetting. I'd like to know what kind of vetting the U.S. is doing before allowing even one of them in.

    I brought up the same point while Europe was allowing refugees to flood through their boarders. Seems many liberals over in Europe had their heads up their asses. NOW, it closes its boarders, or at least has (or so I read) a firm grip on who's coming in. Typical result of misguided (and widespread) liberal love & peace bull thinking.


    "Are you a terrorist?"

    "Alahhu Ak... No"

    "Welcome to Michigan."

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    I don't think you have any way to know if "most" of the hundreds of thousands are similar to the relatively small number of stories you've heard.
    Of course I have. There is an entire government agency dedicated to tracking such data.

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    Ben ing Carson is a bigger danger to society than Syrian refugees.

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    Impossible to let them in in the numbers that say Europe is letting them in with enough vetting. I'd like to know what kind of vetting the U.S. is doing before allowing even one of them in.
    If there were only some way to search for such information on a computer....That'd be great.

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    "Are you a terrorist?"

    "Alahhu Ak... No"

    "Welcome to Michigan."
    Is this what you think the vetting process is, Darrin?

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    Is this what you think the vetting process is, Darrin?
    I think he's making the point that there is probably no way to know. What type of papers do you think refugees may have? They can pretend to be anyone.

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    I think he's making the point that there is probably no way to know. What type of papers do you think refugees may have? They can pretend to be anyone.
    Have any of you even tried a simple search about the vetting process or are you content to just talk out of your asses?

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    regulate, red-tape the out of Repug-created refugees, but let just any old assholes, straw buyers buy untraceable guns from unlicensed, private dealers and crooked licensed dealers. The Business of America is Death

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    7 states (including Michigan) not accepting Syrian refugees. C'mon, Rick Scott. Not that it matters - once they get into the US, they can go wherever they want.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-their-states/

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    No, State Governors Can’t Refuse To Accept Syrian Refugees

    More than half a dozen state governors have come out against President Obama’s plans torelocate several thousand Syrian refugees within the United States. Some have pledged to actively resist settlement of these refugees. Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R), for example, signed a letter to Obama that begins “as governor of Texas, I write to inform you that the State of Texas will not accept any refugees from Syria in the wake of the deadly terrorist attack in Paris.” Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal (R) issued an executive order instructing all “departments, budget units, agencies, offices, en ies, and officers of the executive branch of the State of Louisiana” to “utilize all lawful means to prevent the resettlement of Syrian refugees in the State of Louisiana while this Order is in effect.”

    The problem for Jindal, Abbott and the other governors opposed to admitting refugees, however, is that there is no lawful means that permits a state government to dictate immigration policy to the president in this way. As the Supreme Court explained in Hines v. Davidowitz, “the supremacy of the national power in the general field of foreign affairs, including power over immigration, naturalization and deportation, is made clear by the Cons ution.” States do not get to overrule the federal government on matters such as this one.


    Just in case there is any doubt, President Obama has explicit statutory authorization to accept foreign refugees into the United States. Under the Refugee Act of 1980, the president may admit refugees who face “persecution or a well-founded fear of persecution on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion” into the United States, and the president’s power to do so is particularly robust if they determine that an “unforeseen emergency refugee situation” such as the Syrian refugee crisis exists.


    http://thinkprogress.org/justice/201...rian-refugees/

    So the treasonous, unCons utional red states and slave states.


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    Rauner halts new Syrian refugees in Illinois

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...116-story.html

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    If there were only some way to search for such information on a computer....That'd be great.
    Well, if there isn't any feasible way to do it, then refugee camps are the way to go. Keep them their for as long as it takes to build at least some kind of idea as to who the crazies are.

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    Well Shazbot.

    You can always welcome and sponsor a family to live with you!

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    dubya2 still outdoing dubya1 in ignorance, stupidity, xenophobia, nativism, etc

    “As it relates to the refugees, I think we need to do thorough screen,” said Bush. “And take a limited number. But ultimately, the best way to deal with the refugee crisis is to create safe zones inside of Syria so that people don’t risk their lives and you don’t have what will be a national security challenge for both our country and for Europe of screening.”

    Bush then said he did believe one religious group deserves refuge in the United States: Christians.

    “There are a lot of Christians in Syria that have no place now,” said Bush. “They’ll be either executed or imprisoned, either by Assad or by ISIS. And I think we should have—we should focus our efforts as it relates to the Christians that are being slaughtered.”

    http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-pol...-paris-attacks



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    Well, if there isn't any feasible way to do it, then refugee camps are the way to go. Keep them their for as long as it takes to build at least some kind of idea as to who the crazies are.
    Seriously, why haven't you Googled this if you are so concerned?

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    OMG...

    630,000 refugees in Jordan waiting to go elsewhere...

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/kyleblaine/h...-o#.qpD9BvWKlj

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    OMG...

    630,000 refugees in Jordan waiting to go elsewhere...

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/kyleblaine/h...-o#.qpD9BvWKlj
    You're just now finding this out?

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    I am concerned, and I'll certainly do more research on it to better understand, but the linked article references "top security officials" as saying it's a flawed vetting process:

    Top U.S. law enforcement and security officials have cautioned Congress on the terror risks linked to the Syrian refugees. Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson has acknowledged that background checks are not flawless and that “there is no risk-free process” to vet these individuals.



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