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    Actually it is debatable. Duncan won the MVP vote over Manu by one vote. They were both great, but it was an uphill battle for Manu to get the MVP over Duncan given that Duncan was recognized as the best power forward of all time by 2005.
    You are talking about one individual series. Duncan was by far the best player on our team over the course of that season and playoffs.

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    Ok, here it is.

    Duncan is #1 and all the others in contention...are tied for #2.


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    Now I'm second guessing myself. Was it brent or manu, the game 5assist?
    it was manu lol

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    2legit tbh fam

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    You are talking about one individual series. Duncan was by far the best player on our team over the course of that season and playoffs.
    Define by far, Manu scored like 32 and 39 points during those playoffs.

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    You are talking about one individual series. Duncan was by far the best player on our team over the course of that season and playoffs.
    Look, Duncan is the best Spur all-time, but that year Manu was just as important as Duncan. He was the closer...the player with the ball the last 5 minutes of every close game. He was either scoring, creating, or making free throws. Like every player in the NBA, when he turned 34, he wasn't the same player as he was at 28. But he's been damn good in most years, even in a reduced role, and this year he's been essential. We can't win it all without him. I'm guessing you started watching the Spurs 4 or 5 years ago. Anyone that watched Manu from 26-32 would never doubt his greatness and sustained excellence. How many players have been as good as him for so long? Not many.

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    Look, Duncan is the best Spur all-time, but that year Manu was just as important as Duncan. He was the closer...the player with the ball the last 5 minutes of every close game. He was either scoring, creating, or making free throws. Like every player in the NBA, when he turned 34, he wasn't the same player as he was at 28. But he's been damn good in most years, even in a reduced role, and this year he's been essential. We can't win it all without him. I'm guessing you started watching the Spurs 4 or 5 years ago. Anyone that watched Manu from 26-32 would never doubt his greatness and sustained excellence. How many players have been as good as him for so long? Not many.
    Just because your opinion is different than mine doesnt mean I just recently started watching the Spurs. I've been watching the Spurs since before Duncan. Manu had a great 4 year stretch but was never the man on this team. He declined quickly, costed us playoff series, and didn't have the sustained excellence nor was never the man on a championship team as Parker did. That doesn't mean he isnt a Spurs great and I dont respect him.... I put him at 5th all time on my list... I just think there is a pretty decent gap between 4 and 5.

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    it was manu lol
    Oops, thanks

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    I always chuckle when i read old timers post Stat Padding playing against 5'8 white guys goerge gervin..pe wee league compeitiom should not count. I know hes a sf but just a side comment when i see posters putting him above Manu.
    Spare us your racist hyperbole for once, face.

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    Manu didn't give the assist to Horry in game 5 vs. Detroit. That was brent Barry.

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    how can you forget the biggest moment in basketball tbh

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    Just because your opinion is different than mine doesnt mean I just recently started watching the Spurs. I've been watching the Spurs since before Duncan. Manu had a great 4 year stretch but was never the man on this team. He declined quickly, costed us playoff series, and didn't have the sustained excellence nor was never the man on a championship team as Parker did. That doesn't mean he isnt a Spurs great and I dont respect him.... I put him at 5th all time on my list... I just think there is a pretty decent gap between 4 and 5.
    Great 4 year stretch? He made the all-star team in 2005 and 2011 and he was the 6th man of the year is 2008.He averaged double figures from 2003 to 2015 and his numbers didn’t see a real decline until 2011-2012 season. And he continued to be a key cog since the 2011 season in both scoring and playmaking.I agree that everyone is en led to their opinion, but it’s pure fact that Manu’s prime was more than just 4 years.He’s an all-time great in the NBA, not just the Spurs.He was every bit as important as either Tim or Tony in the 2005 and 2007 championships.If not for his all-around game, we would not have won in 2005 for sure, and it’s possible the same could be said for our most watered down le in 2007.

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    Manu is third best... If I were to pick a team from all spurs players, it would be hard not to pick him that high. Assuming you can't pick prime Dominique or Moses malone

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    If I were picking a team to WIN...and not just look good on the court. Here's my team.

    Duncan
    Robinson
    Manu
    Kawhi
    Parker

    And I would put this up against any other team's best 5 in history. It's hard to realize how great our team and players have been, from an historical perspective...when we are currently living it. These players are all going to be legends.
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    Spare us your racist hyperbole for once, face.
    He's acting as if Gervin played in the 50s-60s and not the 70s-80s.

    If anything, he was playing against a bunch of coked up guys

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    Manu and Tony have not passed Gervin, period.

    It remains to be seen if Kawhi can pass him, but for now the History book reads like this.

    Timmy
    D'Rob
    Gervin

    Then it's everyone else.

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    Manu and Tony have not passed Gervin, period.

    It remains to be seen if Kawhi can pass him, but for now the History book reads like this.

    Timmy
    D'Rob
    Gervin

    Then it's everyone else.
    This knows. I can tell this poster saw Gervin play based on user name and avatar alone.

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    I saw Gervin play...a lot. And Gervin had no Defense. Love the guy, but, I would pick Manu.

    If you're talking about a pure shooter/scorer. Than Gervin is number 1...and it ain't even close.

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    Manu and Tony have not passed Gervin, period.

    It remains to be seen if Kawhi can pass him, but for now the History book reads like this.

    Timmy
    D'Rob
    Gervin

    Then it's everyone else.
    Manu > Gervin

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    Career value
    Duncan
    DRob
    Gervin
    Parker
    Manu
    Leonard

    Peak value
    Duncan
    DRob- very close between top 2
    Leonard
    Manu
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    Career value
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    Peak value
    Duncan
    DRob- very close between top 2
    Leonard
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    Interesting way to break it down. On that basis the only change I would make is in your "Peak Value" list. At his peak, DRob was tops. But exactly when was Timmy's peak? The guy personifies the term "sustained excellence."

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    how can you forget the biggest moment in basketball tbh
    Yeah, yeah, I know. I caught myself. I was remembering the championship dvd went brent spoke of that moment and Rasheed Wallace leaving a shooter with Horry's history wide open. But hey, at least I still remember that Vinny Del Negro passed the ball to Sean Elliott for the memorial day miracle in 97. KIDDING, JUST KIDDING! !!
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    I'm convinced people like the OP are actually not Spurfans and make re ed threads like this to turn Spurfans on their own players by acting like a deluded Kobe fan.

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    I'm convinced people like the OP are actually not Spurfans and make re ed threads like this to turn Spurfans on their own players by acting like a deluded Kobe fan.
    And yet we keep it afloat

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    Manu is # 2 to Duncan in my opinion.

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