Dennis Rodman is a stupid, stupid asshole

[Spurminator]

I think an important question is missing from this discussion...

Where did you download this game and are there more?

[DannyT]

whered you download the game from

[ambchang]

Momentum was lost. It wasn't merely 6 points, those misses also started the Pistons fastbreak when they were having trouble scoring.

No Ginobili and Bowen didn't have GREAT games. But they certainly weren't bad. Ginobili had 9 assists, I doubt he was doing 'nothing'.

All subjective. Point is, Duncan was having a great game, and the Spurs were still only tied at halftime. Perhaps doing 'nothing' was exaggerating the situation, but there was no question that Duncan was the one that put the whole Spurs on his shoulder and kept them in the game before Horry went off.
BTW, Ginobili played quite poorly (by his standards) that game offensively, shooting only 5/16 for the game. Parker had 6 TO in the game, and Duncan, other than the missed FTs (which happened in the 4th quarter), had a superb game.

[Nikos]

All subjective. Point is, Duncan was having a great game, and the Spurs were still only tied at halftime. Perhaps doing 'nothing' was exaggerating the situation, but there was no question that Duncan was the one that put the whole Spurs on his shoulder and kept them in the game before Horry went off.
BTW, Ginobili played quite poorly (by his standards) that game offensively, shooting only 5/16 for the game. Parker had 6 TO in the game, and Duncan, other than the missed FTs (which happened in the 4th quarter), had a superb game.

Ginobili played a reasonable game. 5/16, but he missed some chippies, and getting 9 asts and 2 Tos is not exactly the statline of someone who is doing 'nothing'. Bowen actually contributed on offense too. Yes Duncan carried the bulk of the load in the second half, but Ginobili set up Horry plenty of times as well. It wasn't exactly Duncan doing everything and all the role players doing nothing. Billups was pretty much the only Piston dominating, the rest of their role players were hardly any better than the Spurs. So I think it is an exaggeration to say the Spurs role players did NOTHING.

[SequSpur]

All I know is Dennis has 5 rings. Blame Robinson and the ownership for the lack of not winning anything during that time period.

[slayermin]

I remember watching that game at Coyotes.

[ambchang]

All I know is Dennis has 5 rings. Blame Robinson and the ownership for the lack of not winning anything during that time period.

Yes, let's compare whoever's got more rings and allocate the blame to the ones who won fewer rings, because we have obviously not watched the game.

[ambchang]

Ginobili played a reasonable game. 5/16, but he missed some chippies, and getting 9 asts and 2 Tos is not exactly the statline of someone who is doing 'nothing'. Bowen actually contributed on offense too. Yes Duncan carried the bulk of the load in the second half, but Ginobili set up Horry plenty of times as well. It wasn't exactly Duncan doing everything and all the role players doing nothing. Billups was pretty much the only Piston dominating, the rest of their role players were hardly any better than the Spurs. So I think it is an exaggeration to say the Spurs role players did NOTHING.

which is what I said ....
but saying that Duncan was bailed out was just insane.

[FromWayDowntown]

All I know is Dennis has 5 rings. Blame Robinson and the ownership for the lack of not winning anything during that time period.

I have always thought that the Spurs failure in 1995 was partly on Rodman, partly on Robinson, and mostly on the management style. Had management not been so, um, militaristic with Rodman, things may have been a bit different. That team had three top-tier players and should have won that le. Robinson excelled because Rodman took pressure off of him in some situations; when Rodman lost interest (in part, I think, because of the way he was handled) things got very difficult for David, and unfortunately, he didn't really rise to meet the challenge. Not all on David and not all on Rodman.

I do think, though, that the Rodman experiement (which Pop inherited in the summer of 1994) has shaped the manner in which Popovich has built this franchise. The idea that the Spurs are nothing but choir boys is something of a myth; but the notion of building a team fill with character guys who understand and respect authority isn't. Pop won't allow another Rodman-type in here, ever.