ESPN: Has lost all credibility, the Lebron v Jordan debate. Or lack there of.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

LBJ just pulled off the greatest comeback in NBA Finals history, but he's also been part of some incredible collapses (2011, 2014), and got incredibly lucky in 2013.

Has he threepeated? Twice? End of discussion. MJ is still GOAT. The discussion for the rest of the top 10 is interesting...

How do you rank the following: Magic, Bird, Timmy, Kobe, Russell, Kareem, Hakeem, Shaq, LBJ? And who have I forgotten that should be in there?

[tholdren]

LBJ just pulled off the greatest comeback in NBA Finals history, but he's also been part of some incredible collapses (2011, 2014), and got incredibly lucky in 2013.

Has he threepeated? Twice? End of discussion. MJ is still GOAT. The discussion for the rest of the top 10 is interesting...

How do you rank the following: Magic, Bird, Timmy, Kobe, Russell, Kareem, Hakeem, Shaq, LBJ? And who have I forgotten that should be in there?

It depends on what your criteria for rating would be.

[.G.]

YeH, the Duncan that missed two easy shots over Battier to win a championship.

YeH, that Duncan.

[lefty]

The Pistons used to make Dad Killer cry like the little he truly was. He needed to beg Stern to change the rules of the league to neuter them - the most made move ever.

"The ultimate compe or" - that schtick is almost as fraudulent for DK as it is with Kobe.

The Bulls were 1 shot away from the ECFs without him

I believe Jordan has the same number of les as Lebron at Lebron's age. I don't like either player as their egos are so over the top. But Lebron is actually more likeable than Jordan. But in terms of basketball, Lebron is absolutely on Jordan's level and his size and speed make him a monster match up. He's maybe not as clutch as Jordan, but he's pretty damn clutch as he put up a classic game in a game 7 on the road against a team that set the regular season record for most wins.

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[NameLess Scrub]

Hey fellas, I was wondering which are the best games Jordan has played in your opinion. I wanted to watch them and see Jordan at its greatest, since I'm mostly a modern-day fan who hasn't really watched earlier basketball.

This could help you:

https://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/...an-challenges/

[NameLess Scrub]

It's close. Lebron is on pace (actually outpacing Jordan) in terms of awards, but not raw stats (although he played in a faster-paced era). Jordan had way stronger conference compe ion, whereas Lebron had way stronger Finals compe ion. After 31, Jordan would only make the playoffs 3 more times (all les). That will be difficult for Lebron to match, but possible.

At 31 years old:

Michael Jordan:
3x champion
3x FMVP
3 Finals
3 MVPS
RS: 32/6/6/3/1 on 51%
PO: 34/7/7/2/1 on 50%

Lebron James:
3x Champion
3x FMVP
7 Finals
4 MVPs
RS: 27/7/7/2/1 on 50%
PO: 28/9/7/2/1 on 48%

I think it's worth mentioning about Jordan.

7x scoring champ (ended up with 10)
2x dpoy
0 superstar team ups

[jimbo]

Social media woulda roasted the outta Jordan if it existed back then

[skulls138]

LBJ just pulled off the greatest comeback in NBA Finals history, but he's also been part of some incredible collapses (2011, 2014), and got incredibly lucky in 2013.

Has he threepeated? Twice? End of discussion. MJ is still GOAT. The discussion for the rest of the top 10 is interesting...

How do you rank the following: Magic, Bird, Timmy, Kobe, Russell, Kareem, Hakeem, Shaq, LBJ? And who have I forgotten that should be in there?

Russell DOUBLED Jordans championships while playing against Wilt. Why isnt he the GOAT? Jordan kept losing til Phil Jackson got there, same with Shaq and Kobe, hmmm. My Mount Rushmore is Russell, Duncan, Bird and Jordan. Jordan shares GOAT with the other three.

[Obstructed_View]

Russell DOUBLED Jordans championships while playing against Wilt. Why isnt he the GOAT? Jordan kept losing til Phil Jackson got there, same with Shaq and Kobe, hmmm. My Mount Rushmore is Russell, Duncan, Bird and Jordan. Jordan shares GOAT with the other three.

Maybe because Russell had between five and seven hall of famers on his team at any given time?

[Clipper Nation]

Maybe because Russell had between five and seven hall of famers on his team at any given time?

Dad Killer had stacked teams too. When he got caught betting on basketball, the Bulls replaced him with Pete Myers from the CBA and still won 55 games (only two less games than the year before).

[Obstructed_View]

[QUOTE=Clipper Nation;8635053]Dad Killer had stacked teams too.
Good point. Other than the extra five hall-of-fame players that Russell had, it's exactly the same. How could I have been so blind? The situations are just super super identical if you squint your eyes a bit.

When he got caught betting on basketball,

Wow, breaking news. Why'd you bury the lead?

the Bulls replaced him with Pete Myers from the CBA and still won 55 games (only two less games than the year before).

If you don't count the nine fewer games they won in the playoffs, of course.