The Meager Cliff Dwelling of Livio-Jean Charles

[waisman]

SAS should have kept JaMychal Green .

[SAGirl]

[cd98]

Yikes. He was awful in the Houston game. He was 4 steps behind every one which is bad considering he was playing in garbage time. I don't know that he will ever play in the NBA.

[rastaspur]

Yikes. He was awful in the Houston game. He was 4 steps behind every one which is bad considering he was playing in garbage time. I don't know that he will ever play in the NBA.

He wont. You can take that to the bank.

[tonight...you]

Agreed. Though I'm more interested in keeping Garino in the greater organization then Livio, but obviously would like to have both about

Getting pumped about making some in-season bets involving some of these MST3K and Rifftrax vids I own, completely legally, that I'm ready to put on the line...

Who am I kidding? PM me and I'll let you borrow a few of my 400 originals for a brother-MST3K/Cinematic anic/TheMovieGuys/Rifftrax-in-arms. For a limited time, of course. I'm sure I will demand them back at some point...

[SAGirl]

Livio returning to Asvel.

Livio Jean-Charles will return to ASVEL, a French team owned by Tony Parker.
Jean-Charles came to the United States this season but was released by the San Antonio Spurs in training camp.
Jean-Charles spent the season in the D-League with the Austin Spurs, averaging 9.9 points and 5.5 rebounds.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap...turns-To-ASVEL

[sasaint]

Livio returning to Asvel.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap...turns-To-ASVEL

Wow! I didn't see that coming. Maybe it is an omen for Tony...

[palangi]

He got so much better playing here. Now he will go back there and regress. Very unfortunate.

[SAGirl]

I am very rusty in French.
Anyways, Livio is returning to play in the dleague next season:
http://www.bebasket.fr/championnat-p...-d-league.html

I suppose, before judging... remember Simmons played there 2 seasons and was 26 when he signed his first NBA contract.

Livio is 3 years younger than that and he's still getting paid by the Spurs... so the Livio experiment might not be over.

[Chinook]

I am very rusty in French.
Anyways, Livio is returning to play in the dleague next season:
http://www.bebasket.fr/championnat-p...-d-league.html

I suppose, before judging... remember Simmons played there 2 seasons and was 26 when he signed his first NBA contract.

Livio is 3 years younger than that and he's still getting paid by the Spurs... so the Livio experiment might not be over.

Appreciate it. I'm not even rough in French. I can just catch snatches of meaning here or there.

I hope this means Livio is coming back on a two-way deal. I would rather the team retain control of him in case he does play well. I think he really started putting it together at the end of his time in Austin.

[dabom]

Dude is a bucket.

[Chinook]

Also is this a first look at a functional D-League system overseas? It would seem like Livio went to ASVEL to get a bump in pay/compe ion. Right now, it takes a lot of hand-shaking among the three teams and the player. But if the G-League doesn't take off, I could see more teams looking to establish farm relationships with second- and third-tier Euro teams.

[TheDoctor]

Google Translated the article. It suxs but its better than not speaking French at all.

LIVIO JEAN-CHARLES SHOULD RETURN TO D-LEAGUELivio JeanCharles to the DLeague


Photo credit: Sébastien Grasset
Livio Jean-Charles should try his luck again in D-League next year. With the ambition to cross the cape of the NBA ...
Livio Jean-Charles (2.03 m, 23 years old) will not wear the ASVEL jersey next season. Club president Tony Parker confirmed this in an interview with Progress.


"Livio gave me great pleasure, he wants to stay in D-League and try again in the NBA. He can succeed. "
The wing joined ASVEL in April after Austin Spurs regular season (not entered D-League playoffs). The Guyanese played in the development league after being cut by San Antonio on the eve of the NBA regular season.

On his Pro A season end, the Guyanese showed real progress, averaging 10.3 points on 52.3% of shooting, 4.9 rebounds, 1.3 steals and 3 fouls in 29 minutes in playoffs (11.3 in 23 minutes out of the nine regular season games).

[exstatic]

Also is this a first look at a functional D-League system overseas? It would seem like Livio went to ASVEL to get a bump in pay/compe ion. Right now, it takes a lot of hand-shaking among the three teams and the player. But if the G-League doesn't take off, I could see more teams looking to establish farm relationships with second- and third-tier Euro teams.

It helps when the PG on the big club helps him make more cash and get experience on the team he owns in Europe, before releasing him to return to the G-league.

[ceperez]

Explain to me why LJC is again in Summer League and why the does the Spurs have a cap hold on him when he got waived?

Did he get waived or something else happened?

[ceperez]

I am very rusty in French.
Anyways, Livio is returning to play in the dleague next season:
http://www.bebasket.fr/championnat-p...-d-league.html

I suppose, before judging... remember Simmons played there 2 seasons and was 26 when he signed his first NBA contract.

Livio is 3 years younger than that and he's still getting paid by the Spurs... so the Livio experiment might not be over.

I understand that the Spurs are still paying him, but do they have his rights?

[jyra]

Explain to me why LJC is again in Summer League and why the does the Spurs have a cap hold on him when he got waived?

Did he get waived or something else happened?

He was signed to a rookie scale deal that included guaranteed salary for the first two years (year 1 $1,122,792, year 2 $1,035,200). They gave up his rights when they waived him. I would imagine that the Spurs would still be his primary destination if he wanted to sign a two way contract.

[ceperez]

He was signed to a rookie scale deal that included guaranteed salary for the first two years (year 1 $1,122,792, year 2 $1,035,200). They gave up his rights when they waived him. I would imagine that the Spurs would still be his primary destination if he wanted to sign a two way contract.

So if Spurs sign him this season, they could have to pay him twice?

[objective]

So if Spurs sign him this season, they could have to pay him twice?

sure looks that way

[cjw]

So if Spurs sign him this season, they could have to pay him twice?

Yeah, but the first is a sunk cost. Nothing they can do about that million bucks.

[tholdren]

He was signed to a rookie scale deal that included guaranteed salary for the first two years (year 1 $1,122,792, year 2 $1,035,200). They gave up his rights when they waived him. I would imagine that the Spurs would still be his primary destination if he wanted to sign a two way contract.

Lol he just found out he sucks, huh? I could have saved him some time

[Chinook]

Best offensive game of his stateside career. Showed improved hands and didn't try to do too much outside that fastbreak. He just needs to put that together with some of the defense he played two years ago. Deserved more minutes than he got.

[dabom]

Dude is a bucket.

[ceperez]

Best offensive game of his stateside career. Showed improved hands and didn't try to do too much outside that fastbreak. He just needs to put that together with some of the defense he played two years ago. Deserved more minutes than he got.

Good to hear. Hope he takes it to the next level.

[sasaint]

Best offensive game of his stateside career. Showed improved hands and didn't try to do too much outside that fastbreak. He just needs to put that together with some of the defense he played two years ago. Deserved more minutes than he got.

Hopefully next game - for LJC and Jefferson both.