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    If a lack of health insurance was killing thousands of Americans every year, and the goal of the ACA was to save lives by reducing the percentage of Americans without health insurance, the clearest possible test of the success of the ACA would be a reduction in mortality. While there are some indications that the ACA did increase the percentage of Americans with health insurance, life expectancy has actually gone down, rather than up. Mortality – as measured by the age-adjusted death rate – increased 1.2%, rather than decreased due to more health insurance.

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    Are you saying that's causation?

    Yes or no.

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    Cause vs correlation. I don't make that jump like Chump.
    Are you saying that's causation?

    Yes or no.

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    So it didn't cause that.

    OK.

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    But I didn't marry a cheating .
    Neat, re .

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    DMC's personal information and history archive

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    DMC's personal information and history archive
    Every time you mention that, you're using your personal information and history archive.

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    Every time you mention that, you're using your personal information and history archive.
    Mine is nowhere near as vast and extensive as yours. Congratulations, you're all up in the personal lives of a bunch of dudes on the internet.

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    Mine is nowhere near as vast and extensive as yours.
    Genetics

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    Key results from the Politico-Harvard poll:
    •40 percent of those surveyed want to see Congress try to help lower the cost of prescription drugs this fall.
    •33 percent want to see the minimum wage raised at the federal level.
    •30 percent want to see the budget and overall spending reduced.
    •26 percent want to see Obamacare repealed and replaced.
    •24 percent want to see a spending increase to improve the nation's infrastructure.
    •23 percent want to see Russian meddling in the 2016 U.S. presidential election investigated.
    •20 percent want federal taxes on individuals and businesses reduced.
    •11 percent would like to see Congress focus on building a border wall between the U.S. and Mexico in the fall.

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    Where is the humility gene?

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    Where is the humility gene?
    Physical location?

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    Democratic propaganda. Anecdotal bull while they try to drive up health care costs even higher and bring quality of care even lower!

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    Physical location?
    Present or absent?

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    Democratic propaganda. Anecdotal bull while they try to drive up health care costs even higher and bring quality of care even lower!
    Yeah, that's clearly the goal.

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    Present or absent?
    True humility isn't something you claim to have. It's something others point out in you.

    Just by asking that question you indicate you probably don't.

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    Yeah, that's clearly the goal.
    How do you know it's not the goal? Did you sit in on the meetings? You just know that govt. milk from the teet is good for you?

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    If a lack of health insurance was killing thousands of Americans every year, and the goal of the ACA was to save lives by reducing the percentage of Americans without health insurance, the clearest possible test of the success of the ACA would be a reduction in mortality. While there are some indications that the ACA did increase the percentage of Americans with health insurance, life expectancy has actually gone down, rather than up. Mortality – as measured by the age-adjusted death rate – increased 1.2%, rather than decreased due to more health insurance.

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    If you think not paying for someone's treatment is "killing them", then you're also killing them.
    In all fairness, the late Depressionary and early Baby Boomer generations in American were/are the heaviest cigarette smoking generation groups in mankind's history.

    You'll see average life expectancy e into the 90s in 20-25 years or so after the smoking rate falls below 3% nationally... right now around 2/5 of the nation still smokes

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    Key results from the Politico-Harvard poll:
    •40 percent of those surveyed want to see Congress try to help lower the cost of prescription drugs this fall.
    Meaning 60 percent do not?
    What a fake phucking poll.

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    Meaning 60 percent do not?
    What a fake phucking poll.
    Not necesarily.

    The other half could be against it or have no opinion. Seeing the methadology helps in this case.

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    Not necesarily.

    The other half could be against it or have no opinion. Seeing the methadology helps in this case.
    The methodology is them lying their asses off, dude. People know polls are typically bull .

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    How do you know it's not the goal? Did you sit in on the meetings? You just know that govt. milk from the teet is good for you?
    demandingI prove a negative again. Also, conspiracy!

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    demandingI prove a negative again. Also, conspiracy!
    So, you don't have anything to back your bull up. Check.

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    So, you don't have anything to back your bull up. Check.
    Your claim. Your burden of proof.

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    Your claim. Your burden of proof.
    Higher premiums / worse health care. Plenty out there on that. So, you don't think that's a reality? For why?

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    Higher premiums / worse health care. Plenty out there on that. So, you don't think that's a reality? For why?
    "For why?"


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