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    Every game is game 1 Seventyniner's Avatar
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    The Toronto 1st is almost worthless. (Top 20 protected).
    The Raps had the 2nd best record in the league last year and just got better. Unless injuries ravage them, it would surprise me if their pick makes it into the top 20.

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    I don't think they have to act over the summer. They could wait to see what the early season brings. Teams will sour on their situations and look to dump players and the Spurs can be actors in that. I agree with you, however. They have some ability to add another good player and they should look to do that now that they didn't opt for a total rebuild

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    Built not bought fans still exist?????

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    Derozan is win now and compete for the next 2-3 years. Why wait to see if Dejounte/White turn into a Kemba Walker when they can probably get it done now tbh.

    People disagreeing is the same that re Philly fans were saying about not trading Fultz for Leonard
    A big 3 of DeRozan, LMA, & Kemba doesn't challenge the Warriors. I think patience is the way to go for the Spurs, tbh.

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    What are you willing to give up for Kemba?
    Murray and a 1st. I don't think salaries will work so Pau would have to be included but CHA won't take Pau back unless we take back Batum and then I think Mills would have to be involved.

    Batum has a horrible contract but Kemba/Batum to this roster while getting rid of Pau/Patty make the Spurs easily a Top 3-4 team in the league.

    Again, it would never happen but it's nice to think about

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    Cousins is likely finished, tbh..
    and yet he'd be the best big on the Spurs

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    A big 3 of DeRozan, LMA, & Kemba doesn't challenge the Warriors.
    I didn't say it would, no one is challenging the Warriors

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    This is about preserving Pop's legacy of making it to the playoffs every year. Nothing more.

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    You want Kemba so instead of a second round team (at best) we can become a second round team with an extremely long shot at a WCF appearance?
    You are posting on an amazing level right now. The Spurs are not Barcelona. It's not le or bust WCF appearances are nothing to scoff at.

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    I didn't say it would, no one is challenging the Warriors
    So then what's the point?

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    LMA and DeRozan are legit. Everyone else are situational. We need a third player, preferably a SF who can hit the three with size. Clippers are going nowhere, so I wonder if Tobias Harris who has an expiring contract could be made available. Just not sure we have the picks and salary to make it work. The poor side would either be Beasley or Nick Young.

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    A big 3 of DeRozan, LMA, & Kemba doesn't challenge the Warriors. I think patience is the way to go for the Spurs, tbh.
    No one challenges the ing warriors man. That's not the bar.

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    That's fair and all bro, but DeMar is an ALL NBA player and 4 time ALL Star in his prime. He's on a safe contract for some stability for a few years after all this mess. Even if you feel his PPG is inflated he still put over 23+ PPG for like 3 years now. The dude can flat out score. He has his limitations and it never surprises me when Spurstalk overrates negatives over positives. It's just the nature of the beast. No surprise people were fueled by the drama here but I digress. Getting a sure thing in Derozan with stability and solid prospect with a pick is not bad. Sure I'd want more too but dam bro, Kawhi really ed up. Uncle spewing venom every chance he gets.. For goodness sakes, they already come and basically said he'd sit and doesn't want to play there. How many franchises would take that gamble and unneeded media attention. For example Lonzos trade value is all but dead at this point he was just drafted second this last year. Kawhi's camp has put them in basically the same boat.

    My belief is Masai said look I'll waive the physical but you have to accept this trade. Final offer. Y'all may think PATFO caved but i believe they took the sure thing that may have not been there later.
    Sorry - I need to clarify. I agree with all of this. I am fine with what SA did and fully understanding of it. In fact, I’ve been arguing for a while that SA SHOULD NOT blow it up. They won 47 without Kawhi (and the dark cloud hanging) and that anything for Kawhi would help SA maintain.

    Im arguing almost the opposite of what you are saying: The fact SA got way more of a player, especially in the place of young talent/picks, that it stands to reason they should now go for it.

    I don’t mean I expect them to land Anthony Davis, but they got an all-star instead of good picks. Pop is on the way out in a couple years. Go for it. Get more win now players if that means using your picks to do so. SA has some young talent already and their picks won’t be lottery picks. Win now.

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    Make a play for Jimmy Butler!

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    This is about preserving Pop's legacy of making it to the playoffs every year. Nothing more.
    The person who tells everyone to get over themselves has the biggest ego in the room. Shocking.

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    This is about preserving Pop's legacy of making it to the playoffs every year. Nothing more.
    I think it's more about being able to sell tickets. As much as I'd love to see them blow it up and tank for lottery picks I don't own the team and I'm not the one who'd be losing money from it for years.

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    I'd be blowing up Minnesota's phones. If you can get Butler without giving up Aldridge or DeRozan it would be a coup.

    Then I would go buy some Powerball tickets cause it has about the same chance of happening.

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    No one challenges the ing warriors man. That's not the bar.
    There's no point of giving up on Murray & White for mediocrity. Criticizing sixers for not getting rid of Fultz in pursuit of Kawhi is right, he gets them to the finals. Walker doesn't make a difference in Spurs case.

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    Staying playoff compe ive just so you have something to watch on TV?
    Yes . I mean, what the is the point of basketball other than trying to win and entertainment?

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    No building blocks for the future and a very slim three year window without the cap space to significantly improve the roster. Yeah, the PATFO just set the franchise back 5-7 years just so Pop can stroke his ego for another two years before handing over the reigns to Becky.

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    I don't think they have to act over the summer. They could wait to see what the early season brings. Teams will sour on their situations and look to dump players and the Spurs can be actors in that. I agree with you, however. They have some ability to add another good player and they should look to do that now that they didn't opt for a total rebuild
    That’s a fair point. I guess this came off as “now” but I’m saying I just want them to go for it. Whether that is at the ASB or next season, go for it.

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    I heard Khris Middleton is available. Something like that would be incredible.

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    I don't think they have to act over the summer. They could wait to see what the early season brings. Teams will sour on their situations and look to dump players and the Spurs can be actors in that. I agree with you, however. They have some ability to add another good player and they should look to do that now that they didn't opt for a total rebuild
    So you're wasting a year of the two that Pop has left?

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    I heard Khris Middleton is available. Something like that would be incredible.
    What do you think it would take??

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    So then what's the point?
    I'd rather see a WCF exit than a 1st round exit tbh

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